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Old 4th November 2009, 01:32 AM
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Originally Posted by MoonLancer View Post
This thread brings a smile to my face.

Christians go out of their way to destroy the winter solstice and yule, and hundreds of years later they wonder why it doesn't end up the way they want it and then turn around and blame the very holly day they stole for ruining Christmas

Ironic.

Santa is a metaphor for God. And just as real.

Buddhists go out of their way to point out the Christians who destroy everything then turn around and celebrate it only to turn back around and seek to destroy it again.

How dare you!
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Old 4th November 2009, 03:27 AM
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Originally Posted by RevSJamison View Post
Buddhists go out of their way to point out the Christians who destroy everything then turn around and celebrate it only to turn back around and seek to destroy it again.

How dare you!
lol its a love hate relationship. i'm a very atypical Buddhist though.
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Originally Posted by PreachersWife2004 View Post
Yes, cuz no one has EVER said these things.

I'll freely admit that most of Christianity's holidays are held on what was traditionally pagan holidays. There's a reason for that. Back in the day, it was to try to convert the pagans to the Christian way.

These days no one really thinks much on that. We celebrate Jesus' birth at Christmastime even though we know he wasn't born on Dec. 25th. We know that Easter also has its roots in pagan rituals. Doesn't change the fact that we celebrate Christ's birth, and then his death on the cross and his resurrection. Just like the fact that I celebrate the Reformation on Halloween doesn't make Halloween non-existent.


Oh, and I will forever believe in the tooth fairy!!
Given that Christ-Mass is a Catholic invention that most all Christians participate in...should we not submit to all of the other Catholic traditions as well?

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Originally Posted by MoonLancer View Post
lol its a love hate relationship. i'm a very atypical Buddhist though.
Just making sure you balance the two right? Lulz
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Old 4th November 2009, 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by MoonLancer View Post
lol its a love hate relationship. i'm a very atypical Buddhist though.

Oh buddy, God has His eye on you!!
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Originally Posted by chingchang View Post
Given that Christ-Mass is a Catholic invention that most all Christians participate in...should we not submit to all of the other Catholic traditions as well?

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at the time it was not the Roman Catholic church, but the universal church. So no...we don't have to "submit" to any of the traditions of the Roman Catholic Church. But that's another thread in another section, isn't it?
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Originally Posted by RevSJamison View Post
Oh buddy, God has His eye on you!!
oh good, while he has his eye on me, i should carve a big fat S on to my forehead and while he is distracted, slip a few deserving overlooked people into paradise.
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Originally Posted by PreachersWife2004 View Post
at the time it was not the Roman Catholic church, but the universal church. So no...we don't have to "submit" to any of the traditions of the Roman Catholic Church. But that's another thread in another section, isn't it?
Thank you for finding a way to phrase that which affirms rather than condemns. I completely agree.
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Originally Posted by PreachersWife2004 View Post
at the time it was not the Roman Catholic church, but the universal church. So no...we don't have to "submit" to any of the traditions of the Roman Catholic Church. But that's another thread in another section, isn't it?
Perhaps Wikipedia is in error?...

From Timeline of the Catholic Church - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

110AD: "Ignatius of Antioch uses the term Catholic Church in a letter to the Church at Smyrna, one of the letters of undisputed authenticity attributed to him. In this and other genuine letters he insists on the importance of the bishops in the Church and speaks harshly about heretics and Judaizers."
There were Christians with other ideas that were viewed as heretics early on...they were either killed or made to submit by the Catholic Church. The Roman Catholic Church "won". Shoot...they even gave us our Bible. It is a Catholic Bible. They invented "Christ-mass"...like it or not. So it appears the Protestants are simply Cafeteria-Catholics...

Either way...we are called to be set apart...but we partake in a secular holiday that has its roots in Paganism and we think it is about Yeshua...

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In the sense Ignatius uses the term, Chingchang...

you're a Catholic.
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