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31st October 2009, 11:21 PM
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1. Jesus or Yeshua (Joshua) ...doubtful it is that big an issue for Christ. He has been called other Names. God has been called many Names by many cultures throught history, so what is the big deal?
2. Designating Dec. 25th as the celebration for Christs birth? The symbolism is beautiful. The winter solstice is a good time of year whether you celebrate Christmas or the Solstice.
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1st November 2009, 01:20 AM
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Reps: 14,293,166,097,171,188 (power: 14,293,166,097,182) | | Originally Posted by chingchang  A small amount of research will land you on that much. Christmas is a celebration of Capitalism and has absolutely nothing to do with God and/or the Spirit.
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You say that like it's a bad thing...
I love Christmas. Presents, decorations, lights, weee... yeah yeah, there's that whole "birth of Christ" thing, but I like all the other stuff too.
So hey, if you wanna be all "bah-humbug" that's cool, but I have zero problem with commercialism. I'll be the first in line tomorrow to buy Christmas cards and decorations as they put away the crappy Hallowe'en stuff 
Meh 
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Actually...yes...it does make me feel better. Good on ya!
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Reps: 69,920,620,471,173,744 (power: 69,920,620,471,179) | | Originally Posted by BeyondAshes You say that like it's a bad thing...
I love Christmas. Presents, decorations, lights, weee... yeah yeah, there's that whole "birth of Christ" thing, but I like all the other stuff too.
So hey, if you wanna be all "bah-humbug" that's cool, but I have zero problem with commercialism. I'll be the first in line tomorrow to buy Christmas cards and decorations as they put away the crappy Hallowe'en stuff
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By all means...exercise your freedom girl!
Something to think about though...MOST "Christians" spend more time...money and energy on these man-made Holidays than they do following the teachings of Yeshua. Specifically...I'm thinking about his teachings on how we should care-for the poor. We spend mega-bucks buying useless crap for these useless Holidays while people go without food...shelter and love. Just seems like a waste. I'm all for fun...but why should we limit our fun by submitting ourselves to the traditions of those who came before us? Instead of buying a bunch of useless crap for relatives and friends (easy enough to do) at Christmas...what if everyone took that money and used it to feed/clothe the poor instead?
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1. Jesus or Yeshua (Joshua) ...doubtful it is that big an issue for Christ. He has been called other Names. God has been called many Names by many cultures throught history, so what is the big deal?
God has a name and so does his Son. Why is it important? Study the Bible...names are a HUGE deal. Names contain power and authority. God has given us his name to USE (according to the Bible) and Yeshua said "ask for anything in my name". 2. Designating Dec. 25th as the celebration for Christs birth? The symbolism is beautiful. The winter solstice is a good time of year whether you celebrate Christmas or the Solstice.
Do you not find it the least bit interesting that early Christians (<300AD) did not celebrate Christ's birth? However...they did celebrate his resurrection on a daily basis.
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3rd November 2009, 11:54 PM
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Can't say to much about Santa (don't believe in him) but that damned
EASTER BUNNY makes my blood boil. Every time I even think of him hopping around with that stupid basket of his, the only thing that keeps me from going on a violent postal rampage is to grab a pillow and rip it apart with my bare hands while I imagine yanking his head off by the ears, and then s****ing down his fuzzy little neck. Oh, and I also don't like the Tooth Fairy, she always stiffed me when I was a kid...
Ok...2 things.
1. The Easter Bunny is a she not a he....
2. The Tooth Fairy is not under a contractual agreement to leave you a darn thing!
....just sayin!
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3rd November 2009, 11:57 PM
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Reps: 1,344,940,743,831,579,648 (power: 1,344,940,743,831,585) | | [quote=chingchang;53399070] God has a name and so does his Son. Why is it important? Study the Bible...names are a HUGE deal. Names contain power and authority. God has given us his name to USE (according to the Bible) and Yeshua said "ask for anything in my name".
The power is in the Being...not the Name. Prayers are answered in Jesus Name just as much as Yeshua or even Buddha. Do you not find it the least bit interesting that early Christians (<300AD) did not celebrate Christ's birth? However...they did celebrate his resurrection on a daily basis.
I truly enjoy historical Christianity.
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4th November 2009, 01:13 AM
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Christians go out of their way to destroy the winter solstice and yule, and hundreds of years later they wonder why it doesn't end up the way they want it and then turn around and blame the very holly day they stole for ruining Christmas
Ironic.
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4th November 2009, 01:15 AM
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Reps: 1,425,232,465,392,338,944 (power: 1,425,232,465,392,368) | | Originally Posted by chingchang I strongly dislike Christmas (which includes Santa). However...I wouldn't focus on Santa too much because Christians should have nothing to do with Christmas. It is funny when I see Fox New running headlines (and you'll see them leading up to Christmas) regarding how Christ is being taken out of Christmas. You know the line. Well...I'll let you in on a little secret: not only was Yeshua not born anywhere near December 25th, but Christmas has its roots in Paganism (as does most of the Christian traditions). A small amount of research will land you on that much. Christmas is a celebration of Capitalism and has absolutely nothing to do with God and/or the Spirit.
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Yes, cuz no one has EVER said these things.
I'll freely admit that most of Christianity's holidays are held on what was traditionally pagan holidays. There's a reason for that. Back in the day, it was to try to convert the pagans to the Christian way.
These days no one really thinks much on that. We celebrate Jesus' birth at Christmastime even though we know he wasn't born on Dec. 25th. We know that Easter also has its roots in pagan rituals. Doesn't change the fact that we celebrate Christ's birth, and then his death on the cross and his resurrection. Just like the fact that I celebrate the Reformation on Halloween doesn't make Halloween non-existent.
Oh, and I will forever believe in the tooth fairy!! 
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