Is it a sin to smoke marijuana?

withdrawTHEhate · #21 2nd November 2009, 11:22 PM

Originally Posted by Forealzchola

its a drug...how does this sound...yea that christian gets high or does drugs with his friends...as a police officer i would arrest your butt for having it on you...even if it might be not "Against your state" it is still against federal law so you can still be arrested by federal agents and federal officers...it smells so nasty as well...its not even classy...God created a plant and people are misusing and abusing it..its just like how God created sex and are abusing that..just because its not a crime against the state...is it still a crime in God's kingdom yes...as well weed and other drug substances can cause you to experience demonic influences and manifestation and hallucination...do you want to go on a demon ride..these things alter your mind and leave you targetable to the enemy.

I'm sorry, but I'll have to disagree with most of your post.

I'm probably going to be contradicting just about everyone in this thread, but marijuana isn't unhealthy for you. In fact it's very healthy for you contrary to the popular media beliefs. I'm not going to rant on about it, but I would say if you get addicted to it, then yes i guess i would consider it a sin. Although, if your using it for medical and stress relieving purposes, then I would say no.

heron · #22 4th November 2009, 02:31 AM

Every plant has an amazing set of properties. Poison ivy has been used to relieve symptoms. Many spices help kill germs. Mushroom types target different viruses. We know that the same plant that helps glaucoma can also lead people to do very jerky things to each other.

Do we protect our brains and relationships, or live for ourselves? If use is about pleasure and escape, or even about interpersonal bonding, it still needs to be held up to the light of what Christ asks for us.

Sending disciples out into towns to heal, cast out devils, and -oh, you might not want to bring along the crack.

I faced a situation last night where I was in authority, and people who were using substances were disrupting what others were trying to accomplish. As one person among many, it was almost impossible to address.

Years ago I worked in a restaurant, and had to pay out of pocket when munchy-bingers walked out on their bills, not even cognizant of what they were doing.

Using may appear innocent, but plenty of offenses are generated when people are not clear-minded. Friends insult each other, promises are neglected, cars hit objects, babies are conceived, work gets backed up. It is not just a matter of killing brain cells and destroying nerves.

It puts dents into relationships. It reinforces a self-based approach to living.

On sin in general: you don't need a teacher. ... Christians have an internal voice guiding them. Situations are dynamic. They should not live in fear, but in love.
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A lot of Christians don't sit around and contemplate on the teachings of Jesus. They talk about Jesus, but they never really think on what He taught. .. How can someone speak up Jesus and obviously never consider His teachings?

If studying another religion, we might give up meat, fast for a month, speak only positive things... devote ourselves to making it work. That is religious practice. Christianity's freedom sometimes leads people to be totally lawless.

Jesus' law is love. If everything comes under that umbrella, if the law is fulfilled in love, then we need to consider how deep the definition of love needs to go. Gushy... cozy... thoughtful... live-sacrificing.

freeport · #23 4th November 2009, 03:10 AM

Originally Posted by heron

Originally Posted by freeport

On sin in general: you don't need a teacher. ... Christians have an internal voice guiding them. Situations are dynamic. They should not live in fear, but in love.
..

A lot of Christians don't sit around and contemplate on the teachings of Jesus. They talk about Jesus, but they never really think on what He taught. .. How can someone speak up Jesus and obviously never consider His teachings?

If studying another religion, we might give up meat, fast for a month, speak only positive things... devote ourselves to making it work. That is religious practice. Christianity's freedom sometimes leads people to be totally lawless.

Jesus' law is love. If everything comes under that umbrella, if the law is fulfilled in love, then we need to consider how deep the definition of love needs to go. Gushy... cozy... thoughtful... live-sacrificing.

In love everything is positive: anger, sadness, breaking the "Law".

Morality is dynamic. Depends on if there is love behind it or not: are you really hoping and believing the best in people? Are you really wanting their better good?

End motive, not static Law... what I like to call "Jack Bauer morality".

Gushy is often yucky. Sometimes abstain, sometimes one must not abstain. Depends on the crowd. 'Be all things to all people to win all'. With the winning the key part.

I hate being angry or hard with my kids, but sometimes I have to be. Sometimes I hate being too liberal with them, but sometimes I have to be.

Love isn't about being gushy... it is - as I know Heron well knows - being effective towards an end goal.

Someone here mentioned being a federal agent and busting people's heads open for using marijuana. Great. But does that save them? In other federal quarters undercover agents have to gain rapport with all sorts... and might try and manipulate them towards better choices.

In Law there are options. The ultimate choice is 'what is good for everyone'. Sometimes the individual has to be punished for the better good for society. But, the individual always matters.

I see people depending on seriously mind effecting and dangerous psychiatric medicine for the answer to their problems... hard for me to condemn marijuana use in light of that.

capnator · #24 7th November 2009, 12:44 AM

Originally Posted by thereisnogreaterlove

So is it still a sin? My heart feels that it is not?

What are your opinions?

My opinion is you can't trust your heart Jer 17:9 The heart [is] deceitful above all [things], and desperately wicked: who can know it?

RozeFantom · #25 3rd December 2009, 05:40 AM

If you believe it is wrong to pollute your body with alcohol than it is wrong to pollute your body with marijuana.
It is scientifically proven that even a small amount of wine is more harmful and detrimental to the human body than marijuana.
The body is gods sacred temple, if you can destroy it with one substance than any other substance is fair game as well.
So if you believe alcohol is safe in gods eyes, than so is marijuana. Alcohol is a harmful drug and it is embraced.
Avoid abuse, and keep recreational habits under control.

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Macx · #26 3rd December 2009, 06:19 AM

I am an anarchist . .. . just thought I'd put that out there up front.

Smoking weed, no. . . . under natural law, not a sin. No compelling evidence in natural law points that way with a caveat. If we take it in issolation. Now if smoking weed impairs your ability to further the Kingdom (say you can't get a respectable job because you have drug charges on your record) then you have made yourself less useful to the Master. If you can do it without becoming a bad witness. . .. . go for it. If you are going to lead a brother or sister into sin because you can handle it and they can't. . . . . hold off. Do something else. There is that millstone scripture Matt 18:

6and whoever may cause to stumble one of those little ones who are believing in me, it is better for him that a weighty millstone may be hanged upon his neck, and he may be sunk in the depth of the sea.

Do what you will when it only effects you, as soon as it effects others. . . . Christian responsibility trumps natural law.

scrofford · #27 5th December 2009, 05:00 AM

Could you see Jesus hitting the pipe or bong? I couldn't! If you couldn't see Jesus doing it, then why would you do it?

Ave Maria · #28 5th December 2009, 05:19 AM

I personally don't think it is a sin to enjoy the occasional joint so long as it is legal where you live. The reason? The Bible tells us to obey the law so it is a sin if you enjoy it at a place where it is illegal because you are breaking the law.