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7th November 2009, 07:00 AM
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Originally Posted by B1inHim  Zeke37 I almost completely disagree whit you theory...it has what is supposition and is based on some verses that are IMO being completely misinterpreted...
I am not going to be on here for a while... thanks for your information though
We are living in a very dangerous time...
This servant was allowed the priveledge of being in/shown the subject that we are talking about per Word of wisdom vision/dream and it is completely in the Word of GOD, just not like you see it...nothing added or supposed, just written with no formula...
I was not afforded the oportunity of learning about this subject...it was shown and then I had to look for it in 20+years of study...
I can see that there will be no agreement concerning this and I pray the best for you... no problems Brother...I pray for you aswell, in this soon coming difficult time... What you call a "theory" is this servants testimony and it is not debateable, doesn't need to be defended...just and simple explianation... see it or not, it is there...
no offense meant... in these discussion boards, there are MANY folks that come here with a "vision/dream" that claim it is right frm God. is it?? is it not?? well, the only way I can figure, is....if said vision/dream lines up with the Bible, then fine...if not, then it is not true. does yours? In my opinion, the small glimps you gave me did not show a "when" factor.... I do not, however, agree with your interpretation (of 20 years looking for it in the Bible) of a mid tribulation rapture. see it or not, the POST-Trib "harpazo" might be there...
well, there is no doubt about a post tribulation gathering to Christ. even pre tribbers agree to that... is there a mass gathering before then, aswell? I have never seen one Biblically. This is NOT a salvational issue and even though we do not agree on this subject..
WE can agree on this;
#1 Jesus Christ is Lord
#2 see # 1
Thanks again we sure can agree on That!!!!!! just so you know... I believe that anyone that really Loves the Lord, will eventually make it to Paradise...might take a Millennium of refinement first though... God knows our hearts and who needs what to make it... All believers will be in Paradise, as promised but some will actually inherit the Kingdom, the elect firstfruits (the ones gathered) that's a little different...
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7th November 2009, 07:43 PM
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Rev. 22:20-21 (KJV)
He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus.
[21] The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen.
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have a great week y'all
Love,
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7th November 2009, 07:59 PM
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Reps: 25,098,236,542,439,984 (power: 25,098,236,542,447) | | Rev 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and [I saw] the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received [his] mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. Rev 20:5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This [is] the first resurrection. Rev 20:6 Blessed and holy [is] he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years. Rev 20:7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
People try and make there be two gatherings when in fact the first one is of those who are dead because they refused to worship the beast. The true harpazo comes at the end of the thousands years as confirmed by the scripture above. Then we which are alive comes after Satan has had his final curtain call. Not before, no matter how you try to twist the scripture to make it fit your thought pattern. God's word is true and unchanging. Believe it or not. That's your choice to your hurt.
What does it say, the rest of the Dead. What does that say? That the ones who are taken for the thousand year reign are already dead. Not raptured. They give their lives for the Masters cause and are rewarded with the thousand year reign.
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