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Interesting points I am still trying to decide what end times view is the one I believe.

Of course I believe it was Billy Graham's wife who said prepare for tribulation but if we get raptured early then good for us.
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Originally Posted by JacksLadder View Post
Interesting points I am still trying to decide what end times view is the one I believe.

Of course I believe it was Billy Graham's wife who said prepare for tribulation but if we get raptured early then good for us.
That is a very wise woman indeed...
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LOL. Why don't you try responding to my next post when I give the Biblical arguments for it??
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Originally Posted by B1inHim View Post
*snip*
Ready to eat?
Here is what we have for information…


“Those days”… what days? The days that we see happening before us all day, every day, right now.

Is the “harpazo” of 1 Thes. 4:15-18 the same thing as what we see that Lord Jesus said?
And He shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together His elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
Did you know that Trumpets is only mentioned in the Gospel of Mattew?

There are also some Partial Preterists that do not view Matt 24 as the same event in Revelation

Matthew 24:31 and He shall be sending His Messengers with a great Trumpet sound and they shall be together-gathering the Called-ones of Him out of the four winds, from extremities of heavens till the extremities of them. [Revelation 8:6]

Revelation 8:6 And the seven Messengers having the seven Trumpets make ready themselves, that they-should-be-Trumpeting/salpizein <4537> (5721)
[Joshua 6:4/Matt 24:31]

I could use some more input on this thread

http://www.christianforums.com/t7392923/
How much of Matthew 24 is fulfilled
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Originally Posted by LittleLambofJesus View Post
Did you know that Trumpets is only mentioned in the Gospel of Mattew?

There are also some Partial Preterists that do not view Matt 24 as the same event in Revelation

Matthew 24:31 and He shall be sending His Messengers with a great Trumpetsound and they shall be together-gathering the Called-ones of Him out of the four winds, from extremities of heavens till the extremities of them. [Revelation 8:6]

Revelation 8:6 And the seven Messengers having the seven Trumpets make ready themselves, that they-should-be-Trumpeting/salpizein <4537> (5721)
[Joshua 6:4/Matt 24:31]

I could use some more input on this thread

http://www.christianforums.com/t7392923/
How much of Matthew 24 is fulfilled
ok, what, my friend, is a Partial Preterist?
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ok, what, my friend, is a Partial Preterist?
They believe only about half of the Olivet Discourse is fulfilled from what I know but there is also some confusion about that. Here is a site by a Partial Preterist if thou art interested

http://www.preteristsite.com/

Welcome to the PreteristSite! So exactly what is all this for? The purpose of this page is to list references and sources for orthodox preterist study and research.
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Originally Posted by LittleLambofJesus View Post
They believe only about half of the Olivet Discourse is fulfilled from what I know but there is also some confusion about that. Here is a site by a Partial Preterist if thou art interested

http://www.preteristsite.com/

Welcome to the PreteristSite! So exactly what is all this for? The purpose of this page is to list references and sources for orthodox preterist study and research.
interesting. I get it now. I can see the point about some of it being fulfuilled, but not the Great White Throne judgement, etc.
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interesting. I get it now. I can see the point about some of it being fulfuilled, but not the Great White Throne judgement, etc.

I have a thread on that also if thou art interested

http://www.christianforums.com/t5239077/
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Daneiel 7:9 Perceiving I became till that thrones they were cast and Ancient of days He sits, clothing of Him as snow pale, and hair of head of him as wool, immaculate, throne of Him fiery, that of flame, wheels of him, burning fire.
10 A river that of fire going out and streaming from before Him. Thousand thousands they are mininstering Him and ten thousand/myriad ten thousands/myriads before Him they are set up. The Judge sits and Scrolls they are opened. [Reve 20]

Reve 20:11 And I saw a great white Throne, and the One sitting on it of whom from Face fled the land and the heaven and place not was found to them.
12 And I saw the dead, the great and the little having stood in view of the Throne and Scrolls were opened and another Scroll was opened, which is of the Life. [Daniel 7]
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Originally Posted by LittleLambofJesus View Post

I have a thread on that also if thou art interested

http://www.christianforums.com/t5239077/
Need help with Books Opened in Reve 20

Daneiel 7:9 Perceiving I became till that thrones they were cast and Ancient of days He sits, clothing of Him as snow pale, and hair of head of him as wool, immaculate, throne of Him fiery, that of flame, wheels of him, burning fire.
10 A river that of fire going out and streaming from before Him. Thousand thousands they are mininstering Him and ten thousand/myriad ten thousands/myriads before Him they are set up. The Judge sits and Scrolls they are opened. [Reve 20]

Reve 20:11 And I saw a great white Throne, and the One sitting on it of whom from Face fled the land and the heaven and place not was found to them.
12 And I saw the dead, the great and the little having stood in view of the Throne and Scrolls were opened and another Scroll was opened, which is of the Life. [Daniel 7]
HEYYYY go advertise your snake oil someplace else
OH, it's calamine lotion, then that's ok, as you werecarry on




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Originally Posted by B1inHim View Post
HEYYYY go advertise your snake oil someplace else
OH, it's calamine lotion, then that's ok, as you werecarry on


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