Armegeddon/Gog-Magog same event?

What was unclear about what I stated?

There are 3 distinct battles involving Gog. To be a little more accurate as to the timing, the first Gog war begins the day of the Lord and Armageddon is at the end of the Tribulation that ends this present age and the second Gog war is after the Day of The Lord (1,003 1/2 years).

Gog 1 <--3.5 year Tribulation-->Armageddon Gog 2<--------Millennium------->Gog 3<New heaven and new earth------------eternity---------->

Originally Posted by kotel

There are 3 distinct battles involving Gog. To be a little more accurate as to the timing, the first Gog war begins the day of the Lord and Armageddon is at the end of the Tribulation that ends this present age and the second Gog war is after the Day of The Lord (1,003 1/2 years).

Gog 1 <--3.5 year Tribulation-->Armageddon<--------Millennium------->Gog 2<New heaven and new earth------------eternity---------->

Wow.......where the heck did that view arrive from?

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Coloss 2:14 Blotting out the against us handwriting to the decrees which was hostile to us,
And has taken out of the midst, nailing it to the stauros

Welll... we may not agree on this but thats ok too... have a great weekend and don't forget to keep an eye out for all those Wicca people, they are recruitng this weekend too
Brother Jerry

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2 Peter 3:9 (KJV)
The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is long-suffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.

I got that from a crystal ball I bought from Wal-Mart 10 years ago.

To be honest with you it came from a Study Bible, prophecy books and reference books, such as the ISBE.

I’m guessing from the bold print and the red highlighting you are questioning the two Gog wars and the Tribulation of 3.5 years.

Gog invades the land the first time when Israel is living in peace with her neighbors in the first half of Daniel’s 70th week prior to middle of the 7 year covenant when the Antichrist puts an end to Jewish sacrifices and offerings in Jerusalem (Dan 9:27).

“Peace and safety” in the Middle East prior to Gog’s invasion at mid point of the 7 year covenant.

Eze. 38:
11 You will say, “I (Gog) will invade a land of unwalled villages; I will attack a peaceful and unsuspecting people - all of them living without walls and without gates and bars.

14-15 Therefore, son of man (Ezekiel), prophesy and say to Gog: This is what the Sovereign LORD says: In that day, when my people Israel are living in safety, will you not take notice of it. You will come from your place in the far north, you and many nations with you, all of them riding on horses, a great horde, a mighty army.

Gog will take possession of Jerusalem for the second half of the 7 year covenant, the same 42 months the Antichrist is given power (Rev. 13:5) and the same 42 months the City will be trampled by the Gentiles (11:2). There is coming a 7 year period but only the second half of it is the great tribulation of 3.5 years, the same period of time as “a time, times, and ½ a time” or 42 months or 1,260 days.

At the end of the 3.5 years Christ returns to destroy his enemies at Armageddon Eze. 38:21-23; 39:3-6). At this time He will resurrect the OT saints and martyred tribulation saints to reign with him for a thousand years (Rev. 20:4-5). “When the thousand years are over” the second Gog war occurs (7).

The 1st Gog war is during the false peace in the middle of the seven year covenant, the second Gog war is at the end of the thousand years of peace established by Christ.

Right. TO be technical I think Gog/Magog of Ezekiel 38 ends at the beginning of the Day of The Lord (if that makes sense). So that would be the first trumpet.

Following that I believe that there is a 7 year Day of The Lord. At the end of which is Armageddon and the Rev 20 battle, of which Gog and Magog are a part of a much greater group. That battle is really more like Satan's last ditch effort than a Gog/Magog battle.

I am honestly not sure.

Originally Posted by kotel

I got that from a crystal ball I bought from Wal-Mart 10 years ago.

That apears to be the same place all these other people got their understaining, or lack thereof, also.

I came across something this morning on this subject....

Hebrews 12:1-2 Wherefore seeing we also are compassed about with so great a cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside every weight, and the sin which doth so easily beset us, and let us run with patience the race that is set before us, Looking unto Jesus the Author and Finisher of our faith, Who for the joy that was set before Him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.

Race is always translated "fight, conflict, etc." except save here. The word means THE PLACE OF ASSEMBLY, and then the games witnessed, and then any contest, a lawsuit, etc. - Companion Bible (KJV), E.W. Bullinger

Revelation 16:16 And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.

Mark 13:9 But take heed to yourselves: for they shall deliver you up to councils; and in the synagogues ye shall be beaten: and ye shall be brought before rulers and kings for My sake, for a testimony against them.

Armageddon is the gathering place of the crowds. There (world-wide...not in one spot) we are delivered for a testimony. We are gathered/assembled with crowds for a witness/testimony.

The battle of Armageddon is the "race set before us" when we will allow the Holy Spirit to speak through us. Is that happening now? I don't know...perhaps. Perhaps what we do on forums such as this is to allow Him to speak through us. Is this our Armageddon?

Psalm 144:1 Blessed be the LORD my strength which teacheth my hands to war, and my fingers to fight:

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