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So tell me, Christian, are you suggesting that eternal life is not part of your beliefs?
__________________ If the flood happened when laws were different than this present state we know, all bets are off for present state science being able to extrapolate backwards in any meaningful or accurate way.
Basically it's a summary of the method behind such gems as the split universe and no gravity.
It started out years ago here in this thread -->
The relevant posts as follows.
Originally Posted by TheBear
So, was the global flood water supposed to be fresh, salt, or brackish?
This should be fun!
Originally Posted by dad
With hyper evolution it didn't matter. They did OK where they ended up.
Originally Posted by Nathan Poe
What was it that stopped (or eventually slowed down) hyper evolution?
Originally Posted by AirPo
The same thing that started it, hyper imagination(HI).
It has three laws
1. It's easy to make things up.
2. Never underestimate the power of the wave.
3. Refutation is futile.
The is sort of a trademark.
__________________ It is an established maxim and moral that he who makes an assertion without knowing whether it is true or false is guilty of falsehood, and the accidental truth of the assertion does not justify or excuse him.
-- Abraham Lincoln
They that would give up essential liberty for a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
-- Ben Franklin
Last edited by AirPo; 4th November 2009 at 09:26 AM.
Ok, so you do realize things have to be different to allow us to live forever? Samr thing with the sun, it is forever. As we understand it now, it will not last forever as is.
__________________ If the flood happened when laws were different than this present state we know, all bets are off for present state science being able to extrapolate backwards in any meaningful or accurate way.
Ok, so you do realize things have to be different to allow us to live forever? Samr thing with the sun, it is forever. As we understand it now, it will not last forever as is.
So you are doubting God's power to keep you living for eternity without having to change anything? I still find it amusing how many christians seem to doubt God's power!
__________________ Thalidomide, Pluto, and Challenger. Not a good argument against science.
Slug's 1st Law of YECism- Genesis 1-9 must be interpreted literally. Slug's 2nd Law of YECism- Any other verses can be interpreted liberally to support the 1st Law. Slug's 3rd Law of YECism- Make up any extra-Biblical claim, no matter how wild, to wave-away evidence in violation of the 1st Law.
Divinity= selflessness rather than selfishness. What is more selfish than sending somebody to hell because they don't love you?
Ok, so you do realize things have to be different to allow us to live forever? Samr thing with the sun, it is forever. As we understand it now, it will not last forever as is.
So you are doubting God's power to keep you living for eternity without having to change anything? I still find it amusing how many christians seem to doubt God's power!
Yes, I am. This earth will be a home for us forever, and it also has to last. If it didn't, God is not true.
I doubt that God is silly. Why would He need to run around propping up a dying state universe that was never meant to last forever? Never assume God is stupid, I would suggest. Besides, there is no need to wonder, it is crystal clear that a new heavens is coming, and the heaven and earth as we know it, in this state will be no more.
__________________ If the flood happened when laws were different than this present state we know, all bets are off for present state science being able to extrapolate backwards in any meaningful or accurate way.
Ok, and since there can be no science to even address how the universe will be in the unknown future, I would say you are on pretty solid ground there.
__________________ If the flood happened when laws were different than this present state we know, all bets are off for present state science being able to extrapolate backwards in any meaningful or accurate way.
Ok, so you do realize things have to be different to allow us to live forever? Samr thing with the sun, it is forever. As we understand it now, it will not last forever as is.
NOW HEAR THIS! Dad has admitted to doubting God's power! I find it amusing how few Christians on here ever confront dad about his posts.
I doubt that God is silly. Why would He need to run around propping up a dying state universe that was never meant to last forever?
If God isn't silly, why did he let it start dying in the first place?
Never assume God is stupid, I would suggest. Besides, there is no need to wonder, it is crystal clear that a new heavens is coming, and the heaven and earth as we know it, in this state will be no more.
I do not assume God is stupid (though the Bible shows he clearly doesn't know what he is doing).
__________________ Thalidomide, Pluto, and Challenger. Not a good argument against science.
Slug's 1st Law of YECism- Genesis 1-9 must be interpreted literally. Slug's 2nd Law of YECism- Any other verses can be interpreted liberally to support the 1st Law. Slug's 3rd Law of YECism- Make up any extra-Biblical claim, no matter how wild, to wave-away evidence in violation of the 1st Law.
Divinity= selflessness rather than selfishness. What is more selfish than sending somebody to hell because they don't love you?