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Old 4th November 2009, 06:24 AM
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Originally Posted by laconicstudent View Post
Yes.
So tell me, Christian, are you suggesting that eternal life is not part of your beliefs?
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Originally Posted by LifeToTheFullest! View Post
What's HI theory?
Basically it's a summary of the method behind such gems as the split universe and no gravity.

It started out years ago here in this thread -->

The relevant posts as follows.

Originally Posted by TheBear View Post
So, was the global flood water supposed to be fresh, salt, or brackish?


This should be fun!
Originally Posted by dad View Post
With hyper evolution it didn't matter. They did OK where they ended up.
Originally Posted by Nathan Poe View Post
What was it that stopped (or eventually slowed down) hyper evolution?
Originally Posted by AirPo View Post
The same thing that started it, hyper imagination(HI).

It has three laws

1. It's easy to make things up.
2. Never underestimate the power of the wave.
3. Refutation is futile.

The is sort of a trademark.
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So tell me, Christian, are you suggesting that eternal life is not part of your beliefs?
No.
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No.
Ok, so you do realize things have to be different to allow us to live forever? Samr thing with the sun, it is forever. As we understand it now, it will not last forever as is.
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Ok, so you do realize things have to be different to allow us to live forever? Samr thing with the sun, it is forever. As we understand it now, it will not last forever as is.
So you are doubting God's power to keep you living for eternity without having to change anything? I still find it amusing how many christians seem to doubt God's power!
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Ok, so you do realize things have to be different to allow us to live forever? Samr thing with the sun, it is forever. As we understand it now, it will not last forever as is.

Yes, that is my religious belief.
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Originally Posted by BananaSlug View Post
So you are doubting God's power to keep you living for eternity without having to change anything? I still find it amusing how many christians seem to doubt God's power!
Yes, I am. This earth will be a home for us forever, and it also has to last. If it didn't, God is not true.

I doubt that God is silly. Why would He need to run around propping up a dying state universe that was never meant to last forever? Never assume God is stupid, I would suggest. Besides, there is no need to wonder, it is crystal clear that a new heavens is coming, and the heaven and earth as we know it, in this state will be no more.
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Yes, that is my religious belief.
Ok, and since there can be no science to even address how the universe will be in the unknown future, I would say you are on pretty solid ground there.
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Ok, so you do realize things have to be different to allow us to live forever? Samr thing with the sun, it is forever. As we understand it now, it will not last forever as is.
God isn't different enough for you, dad?
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Originally Posted by dad View Post
Yes, I am.
NOW HEAR THIS! Dad has admitted to doubting God's power! I find it amusing how few Christians on here ever confront dad about his posts.


I doubt that God is silly. Why would He need to run around propping up a dying state universe that was never meant to last forever?
If God isn't silly, why did he let it start dying in the first place?

Never assume God is stupid, I would suggest. Besides, there is no need to wonder, it is crystal clear that a new heavens is coming, and the heaven and earth as we know it, in this state will be no more.
I do not assume God is stupid (though the Bible shows he clearly doesn't know what he is doing).
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