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Probably true, but you have to take Poe's law into consideration. How do we separate Dad's trolling from the real thing? What if he's actually serious this time?
It is the real thing, but it's still trolling. Dad never debates anything. He simply falls back to his "different state" nonsense, so his posts can't be called anything else than troll-posts.
It is the real thing, but it's still trolling. Dad never debates anything. He simply falls back to his "different state" nonsense, so his posts can't be called anything else than troll-posts.
Good point. Its awfully hard to has a reasonable discussion with someone who considers themselves inerrant and refuses to even respond to evidence and logic to the contrary.
Fascinating how you dance around and don't even mention the refutation offered in my post. I'll give it to you again. Hopefully, the more succinct, the harder time you'll have ignoring the point.
Now, instead of evading, why don't you explain how it is that the explanation the experts give that answers your question is invalid?
You must remember that you have no idea what is actually out there. Therefore you have no idea if starlight split hydrogen atoms, or something else. All we can do is weakly try to see what is out there. Even then, that requires, usually, a lot of 'imagination' to put it politely.
"molecular hydrogen (symbol H2) The normal form of hydrogen gas found on Earth, with two hydrogen atoms bound together by two shared electrons. Hydrogen molecules cannot survive in most regions of space, because they are easily dissociated (split) by ultraviolet light from stars, but they do occur in cold, dense molecular clouds where they are shielded by dust particles. Molecular hydrogen is the main constituent of molecular clouds, but it is difficult to observe directly as it is a symmetrical molecule with no strong radio or millimetre-wave spectral lines."
So what "split" what, when, and how do we know, is the issue. Not, what splits what on earth now.
Science certainly is full of the dark stuff.
__________________ If the flood happened when laws were different than this present state we know, all bets are off for present state science being able to extrapolate backwards in any meaningful or accurate way.
__________________ Creationism has not made a single contribution to agriculture, medicine, conservation, forestry, pathology, or any other applied area of biology. Creationism has yielded no classifications, no biogeographies, no underlying mechanisms, no unifying concepts with which to study organisms or life. - Botanical Society of America's Statement on Evolution
In my experience, given enough time and thread length, dad eventually cannot keep up with his claims and eventually refutes his own arguments. I call it BananaSlug's law of dadtropy.
__________________ Thalidomide, Pluto, and Challenger. Not a good argument against science.
Slug's 1st Law of YECism- Genesis 1-9 must be interpreted literally. Slug's 2nd Law of YECism- Any other verses can be interpreted liberally to support the 1st Law. Slug's 3rd Law of YECism- Make up any extra-Biblical claim, no matter how wild, to wave-away evidence in violation of the 1st Law.
Divinity= selflessness rather than selfishness. What is more selfish than sending somebody to hell because they don't love you?
Fascinating how you dance around and don't even mention the refutation offered in my post. I'll give it to you again. Hopefully, the more succinct, the harder time you'll have ignoring the point.
Now, instead of evading, why don't you explain how it is that the explanation the experts give that answers your question is invalid?
You've just run into the second law of the HI theory. Never underestimate the power of the .
__________________ It is an established maxim and moral that he who makes an assertion without knowing whether it is true or false is guilty of falsehood, and the accidental truth of the assertion does not justify or excuse him.
-- Abraham Lincoln
They that would give up essential liberty for a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
-- Ben Franklin
__________________ On "illegal" immigration: "Give us your poor, your tired, your huddled masses longing to be free..." -The Statue of Liberty
On the alleged connection between Hitler and Atheism:
"For it was by the Will of God that men were made of a certain bodily shape, were given their natures and their faculties." -Hitler, Mein Kampf, Volume II, Chapter X
On gay marriage (or any other discrimination) and the Bible:
"God has shown me that I should not call any man impure or unclean." -Paul the Apostle, Acts 10:28
Dad's officially a troll. He failed twice in a row to address the bolded and underlined refutation. Now Dad is also pretending that emission spectra lies as well and we don't know what's out there, despite the fact that emission spectra is based on experiments that you can preform in any physics lab.