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28th October 2009, 12:28 PM
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28th October 2009, 12:32 PM
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28th October 2009, 01:11 PM
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28th October 2009, 01:19 PM
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Reps: 120,153,750,948,296,832 (power: 120,153,750,948,316) | | Originally Posted by questftbest We all have to call and write our Senators and House Reps to stop a government take over of our health care system that the majority of Americans opposse. We will end up paying more and getting less. Also, Obama, Pelosi and Reid would like Christians like us to pay for abortions. To put it bluntly, they will take money from our pay checks to kill babies. Obama and his liberal cronies are sick in the head.
So many misconceptions (no pun intended).
For example, the majority of Americans DO NOT oppose a public option. http://features.csmonitor.com/politi...berman-doesnt/
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28th October 2009, 01:19 PM
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28th October 2009, 01:21 PM
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Reps: 452,962,350,485,254,272 (power: 452,962,350,485,257) | | Originally Posted by Grizzly So many misconceptions (no pun intended).
Can you honestly say the the hardcore left won't push for abortion funding in obama care? If you think they won't I have a bridge for sale in Brooklyn. | 
28th October 2009, 01:23 PM
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28th October 2009, 01:25 PM
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Reps: 120,153,750,948,296,832 (power: 120,153,750,948,316) | | Originally Posted by questftbest Can you honestly say the the hardcore left won't push for abortion funding in obama care? If you think they won't I have a bridge for sale in Brooklyn.
Of course they will. They believe that an abortion is health care. But the question is, will it be covered in a public option insurance plan? Despite the koolaid they serve over at Foxnews, Obama is far from the hardcore left. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009...ritics-charge/
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28th October 2009, 01:28 PM
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Reps: 1,124,203,120,182,954 (power: 1,124,203,120,192) | | Originally Posted by questftbest Can you honestly say the the hardcore left won't push for abortion funding in obama care? If you think they won't I have a bridge for sale in Brooklyn.
There are existing statutes which forbid any government programs from funding abortions. But there are none which forbid an insurance company from offering abortion coverage.
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28th October 2009, 01:36 PM
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Reps: 62,043,746,070,178 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by questftbest Well there is hope if we can get these reckless spenders out of office. Otherwise we will be a socialist country with crippling debts.
You have large debts already and I am skeptical about the 'socialism'. Originally Posted by questftbest Can you honestly say the the hardcore left won't push for abortion funding in obama care? If you think they won't I have a bridge for sale in Brooklyn.
Abortion funding within set parameters is fairly standard amongst other countries so I would hardly call it hardcore left. |  | | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode | | | |