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28th October 2009, 06:42 PM
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Reps: 367,120,650,414,424,512 (power: 367,120,650,414,437) | | Originally Posted by Staccato  As admirable as your attempt is, facts have no place here. Reid is a Democrat, and therefore he hates babies with the burning passion of a thousand suns. There is no counter-argument.
Not to mention that they are all Communist/Socialist Fascists! 
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28th October 2009, 07:12 PM
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Reps: 771,440,668,994 (power: 771,440,674) | | Originally Posted by questftbest Well I have no say in the policies of other countries. In fact, I would like to close all of our foreign bases and let other countries defend themselves but that is for another thread I suppose. As a Christian and a human being, I think abortion is cold blooded murder and I won't have the crazed liberals taking my money to pay for it.
"I love freedom and keep the government away from me, but I insist on having my say in what other people do to their bodies by using the government to prevent them from having abortions!" -Republicans
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28th October 2009, 07:38 PM
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Reps: 4,405,951,397,236,971 (power: 4,405,951,397,242) | | Originally Posted by questftbest Well there is hope if we can get these reckless spenders out of office. Otherwise we will be a socialist country with crippling debts.
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You already have crippling debts.
You would have been much better off if those debts were due to government service provision than endless international warfare.  |
28th October 2009, 11:45 PM
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Reps: 62,043,746,070,178 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by questftbest As a Christian and a human being, I think abortion is cold blooded murder and I won't have the crazed liberals taking my money to pay for it.
What then is living idly in the world's super power which exploits countless third world countries through trade relations resulting in hundreds and hundreds of child deaths hourly? |
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Reps: 19,391,142,157,809,696 (power: 19,391,142,157,824) | | Originally Posted by questftbest We all have to call and write our Senators and House Reps to stop a government take over of our health care system that the majority of Americans opposse. We will end up paying more and getting less.
We already pay more and get less than the rest of the world.
Tell you what...the rest of us will choose affordable, public health care. You can cut a check to the insurance company CEOs and fund their golf games and golden parachutes. |
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Reps: 37,016,438 (power: 37,020) | | | what would be wrong with letting capitalism work, and allowing insurance companies to compete across state lines?
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Reps: 19,391,142,157,809,696 (power: 19,391,142,157,824) | | Originally Posted by ahiggs what would be wrong with letting capitalism work, and allowing insurance companies to compete across state lines?
Why, so the rich can get richer? Capitalism is already working. The corporations are getting more and more of our money.
Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against a business making a fair profit and getting a return on investment. But these big health insurance companies have been making their own weather for far too long now, jacking up premiums at two and three times the rate of inflation for many, MANY years. |
2nd November 2009, 06:38 AM
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Reps: 37,016,438 (power: 37,020) | | Originally Posted by TheNewWorldMan Why, so the rich can get richer? Capitalism is already working. The corporations are getting more and more of our money.
Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against a business making a fair profit and getting a return on investment. But these big health insurance companies have been making their own weather for far too long now, jacking up premiums at two and three times the rate of inflation for many, MANY years.
capitalism is not evil...it is broken by special interest groups. you do realize that in states such as Alabama there is only 1 insurance company? being as how there are around 1400 insurance companies in this country, allowing them to compete aginst each other would bring prices down.
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2nd November 2009, 09:12 AM
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Reps: 587,719,970,791,168 (power: 587,719,970,794) | | Originally Posted by ahiggs capitalism is not evil...it is broken by special interest groups. you do realize that in states such as Alabama there is only 1 insurance company? being as how there are around 1400 insurance companies in this country, allowing them to compete aginst each other would bring prices down.
I agree that capitalism in itself isn't evil, but some who operate within the system could be classed immoral . . . as in those who deny healthcare to their clients despite them having proper insurance cover. The problem is more that the quest to make a dollar often overrides the individual's need for access to medical resources. In a civilised, first-world society, that can't be right surely.
Opening up the insurance market SHOULD bring prices down (but I wouldn't bet on it being much . . . funny how companies can "agree" financial levels), but it may also increase the number of denials occurring. It would increase pressure within insurance companies to save money . . . perhaps at any cost? So, you would still have PROFIT battling against HEALTHCARE.  | | |
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