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The 2009 Legatum Prosperity Index

And the index seems pretty seriously put together: Legatum Prosperity Index - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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That's right! Number 9. Even America's cap (Canada) is higher! Oh, what to do!

Why, let's continue the superfluous, childish political dissent, worship the dollar through neoliberalistic economic philosophies, trust corporations to work out our best interest for health care (always trust the businessman!), and keep the neoconservative fiction of a perpetual enemy image everliving (thereby corrupting our sense of safety).

Sounds like a plan for number 9.
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I'm wondering, is there any such list the US tops?
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That's right! Number 9. Even America's cap (Canada) is higher! Oh, what to do!

Why, let's continue the superfluous, childish political dissent, worship the dollar through neoliberalistic economic philosophies, trust corporations to work out our best interest for health care (always trust the businessman!), and keep the neoconservative fiction of a perpetual enemy image everliving (thereby corrupting our sense of safety).

Sounds like a plan for number 9.
Actually, it sounds like a plan for some place much further down. Eventually.
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Actually, it sounds like some place much further down. Eventually.
Then a plan for some place much further up would be this?

De fem nordiska länderna bör gå ihop i en ny union

[Oh, right. I forgot. When one is #1, one has already arrived... ]

Back to serious. I think Gunnar Wetterberg's proposal is quite interesting, worth consideration, certainly.

Samhällsdebattören Gunnar Wetterberg: En nordisk förbundsstat kan ge de nordiska länderna en internationell maktställning. En nordisk union skulle bli världens tionde största ekonomi, rejält före till exempel Ryssland och Brasilien. Norden skulle då ha en given plats vid de stora internationella rådslagen. I EU kunde de nordiska länderna med större tyngd hävda nordiska värden. Nyckelpositioner i EU-kommissionen kunde lättare komma inom räckhåll. Fördelarna med ett enande är i dag så stora att politikerna bör göra allvar av en ny Kalmar­union, skriver samhällsdebattören och författaren Gunnar Wetterberg inför Nordiska rådets session i Stockholm den 27–29 oktober.
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"The five Nordic countries should merge into a new union"

Societal commentator Gunnar Wetterberg: A Nordic federation could provide the Nordic countries an international position of power. A Nordic Union would become the world's tenth largest economy, significantly ahead of Russia and Brazil.
Swedish historian touts Nordic power bloc

Foreign people should discuss this Nordic idea
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Then a plan for some place much further up would be this?

De fem nordiska länderna bör gå ihop i en ny union

[Oh, right. I forgot. When one is #1, one has already arrived... ]

Back to serious. I think Gunnar Wetterberg's proposal is quite interesting, worth consideration, certainly.



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Swedish historian touts Nordic power bloc

Foreign people should discuss this Nordic idea
I would certainly support such a union. I'm not TOO sure of the EU, but a Scandinavian Union could really be a winner IMHO. In fact I have been thinking along those lines for a few years. I think it could be a real possibility if the idea just got enough hold in our individual governments. We're very similar nations in many respects. We'd be stronger together than separate. (For the record, Americans, I am not a potential supporter of a union such as this for the purpose of increased military strength)
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I would certainly support such a union. I'm not TOO sure of the EU, but a Scandinavian Union could really be a winner IMHO. In fact I have been thinking along those lines for a few years. I think it could be a real possibility if the idea just got enough hold in our individual governments. We're very similar nations in many respects. We'd be stronger together than separate. (For the record, Americans, I am not a potential supporter of a union such as this for the purpose of increased military strength)
*kröhöm* Nordic Union *kröhöm*

I think the Nordic countries have "been in this together" for so long -- 1,000 to 1,500 years -- so it would not be such a big deal to ditch our independencies for a closer Nordic Union. Last century was a century of independence movements and nation-states, whereas the 21st century will be for transnational unions: BRIC, EU etc.
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*kröhöm* Nordic Union *kröhöm*

I think the Nordic countries have "been in this together" for so long -- 1,000 to 1,500 years -- so it would not be such a big deal to ditch our independencies for a closer Nordic Union. Last century was a century of independence movements and nation-states, whereas the 21st century will be for transnational unions: BRIC, EU etc.
Y'all should bring back the Vikings. The longboats and the helmets were, like, way cool...



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Way cool... and too good to be true.

Good thing is, our young "braves" still know, after all these centuries, how to properly "go berserk", like every Friday and Saturday night and all summer weekends. Yup.



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