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Hey there yall

I just wanted to share my biggest OCD compulsion and ritual with you all.

I believe that baptism is a necessary requirement for salvation for the remission of sins.

My OCD has caused me, just about everyday to doubt my baptism?

I get thoughts like:

"Did you believe enough in Christ at baptism?"
"Did you start repenting at baptism?"
"Did you understand everything at baptism?"

Then I get thoughts like this:
"You have the wrong attitude after baptism making the process invalid."
"You trusted in you baptism more than you trusted in Christ after baptism making the process invalid"
"You didn't believe in Jesus the right way at baptism making the process invalid."

And the biggest two doubts I have had JUST TODAY.

"Did I believe that Jesus was real at baptism?"
"Did I believe that Jesus was resurrected from the dead at baptism?"

Because of all of these doubts, I had to go into my mind and check myself out everyday to see if my baptism was indeed valid or not.

It has caused me great pain and worry and depression.

I am trying to convince myself that it is just OCD compulsions, but what if it is a real problem?

What if I get myself right, get lulled into a false sense of security, and then get sent to hell because it turned out my baptism was indeed invalid?

Any help?
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Old 27th October 2009, 11:11 PM
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startrekfan 1,

Why do you debate with yourself in such a manner? Let me ask you a question. If a person is born from above, why would they need to get wet with water (H2O) in order to be born again?
Listen to what the Spirit has to say; John the Baptist, a forerunner (one who proceeds; a teacher's advocate) baptized with water [a physical teaching of what is to come by the Spirit,when the true Teacher comes], but Jesus baptized with Spirit! God wants what originally belonged to Him in the beginning, the spirit that resides in your body. No amount of water will make you clean, nor purify your hands; the Lamb's Blood is the only thing that can sanctify you. Once sanctified, by washing with the Blood, God justifies you and proclaims you a Son of the Most High. The whole NT is about the spirit of man being reconciled back to the Father of spirits. Water baptism is good to do. It is a part of your testimony, but not necessary.
We overcome by the Blood of the Lamb and the Words of our testimony. When you are born from above, Jesus moves in with your spirit [inside your physical body]. You become one with the Christ and with God. *NOTE* Doctrinal teaching, i.e. 'Rapture', teaches that we will get married in heaven. Well, God teaches that when you are born again, you become a bride of Christ right then. Jesus is the kingdom of God, for it is written, "The kingdom of heaven is in you."**********
I think that where you go wrong, like most young children, is that you separate yourself from the Word, from Jesus. You must read His Word and not stop! Meditating on His Word is extremely important and to be done every night when you put your head on your pillow [see Psalms]. During meditation, the Spirit in the Word is opened up and deposited into your mind, renewing your thoughts, and eventually your ways.
You can't wrestle with flesh and blood to contend for your faith. Apostle Paul said this! The kingdom of Darkness has no power over you, or anyone else. Christ defeated Satan. Totally! What Satan's kingdom can do, however, is to come against your thoughts through suggestions. Again, He has no power, unless you allow it. Jesus defeated the devil with the Word that was in Him, and so must you.
How much Word? Paul, the Apostle, said that he became convinced that nothing could separate him from the Love of God. You must meditate on God's Word until you become convinced that the Holy Spirit does indeed live within you [Jesus Spirit] and won't let you fail! [He wrote the Book to you personally]
Learn to know exactly who you are to God Almighty! According to Zechariah 12:1, your inner man was formed from within God; you are a little God. Truthfully, God loves Himself! Your spirit came from Him [your body came from this earth; Adam means red, or earth. Ergo, son of man], As a born again saint, now given a measure of resurrection power, you are truly able to be like Him! And God loves that about you, Brother! Now God loves you just like He loves Himself. Start thinking like an over-comer. Start laughing at your calamities and shortcomings [God laughs at you too!] and know that when you are weak (in your flesh), God can then become strong!

I could have just given you the short answer, which is; Satan is the one behind those thoughts, so speak the Word when undesirable thoughts come, and speak it until it don't come no more. The problem with the short answer is, there is no ministry to build up 'one another's faith'. I am, my Brothers' keeper!
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Ok, so I have figured out how to stop having the compulsions and just accept the fact that I am saved.

Before we are saved, our souls are "asleep", meaning that we don't know our sins, we just drift through life.

SOUL ASLEEP = NO SALVATION

However, after we are saved, our souls awaken and we go through sanctification.

SOUL AWAKE = SALVATION

I hope that helps.
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I was just going to suggest that this may be a really great question for Ask a Chaplain - they may be able to help.
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Originally Posted by startrekfan1 View Post
Ok, so I have figured out how to stop having the compulsions and just accept the fact that I am saved.

Before we are saved, our souls are "asleep", meaning that we don't know our sins, we just drift through life.

SOUL ASLEEP = NO SALVATION

However, after we are saved, our souls awaken and we go through sanctification.

SOUL AWAKE = SALVATION

I hope that helps.
Ahm, no. Before you are saved, your inner man is lost to 'death' in sin. Your soul is your mind(thoughts), will, and emotions. These are renewed by the washing of the Word, so always read and meditate.
Once saved, your spirit [inner man] is quickened (or made alive) in Christ because of the power of the Blood of Christ. Your compulsions will still keep coming though. So learn to use the Word to fight back. The weapons of our warfare are not carnal, they are spirit. Become convinced that the Word works on your behalf.
Now. Have you received the baptism in the Holy Ghost? Do you have evidence manifesting in you?
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When the Holy Spirit brings life to the Word of God, revealing the truth to you, it's then up to you to respond either by hardening your heart or receiving it and being born again.

John 3:3-5 (NIV)

3In reply Jesus declared, "I tell you the truth, no one can see the kingdom of God unless he is born again."
4"How can a man be born when he is old?" Nicodemus asked. "Surely he cannot enter a second time into his mother's womb to be born!" 5Jesus answered, "I tell you the truth, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless he is born of water and the Spirit."
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can i ask when you got baptised?
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can i ask when you got baptised?
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doubt.
a weapon of the devil.

Do you love Jesus?
Do you have faith in Him?
Do try to follow His commands?

We all have areas in our lives that keep us from being a "stronger" christian.
Keep going. Run the race.

King David is a prime example.
Look at his heart according to God.
Look at all the mistakes he made. Serious ones at that in the physical world.

David wanted to serve God justly.
If you look at the last days of Solomon even in all the wisdom God granted him. He turned away and did evil in the sight of the Lord.

So you can focus on the things of God. or focus on worrying.
Matthew says Do not worry. Inspirational sermon by Christ.

Edouard.
May God grant you inner peace and strength to move past your stumbling blocks.
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