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As I have posted many times one single picture can refute YEC
Please tell me how that picture 'refutes' YEC.
Better yet, explain how natural uniformitarianism refutes divine catastrophism.
How long did it take the oceans of this world to reach its current level?
Longer than that chalk?
Then I submit that if God can "heap" ocean water to its current level in one yoctosecond, He can most certainly "heap" that "tiny bit" of chalk together with no problem.
Better yet, explain how natural uniformitarianism refutes divine catastrophism.
How long did it take the oceans of this world to reach its current level?
Longer than that chalk?
Then I submit that if God can "heap" ocean water to its current level in one yoctosecond, He can most certainly "heap" that "tiny bit" of chalk together with no problem.
Unless natural processes prove otherwise.
Anhhh, nevermind...
__________________ We are surrounded by endless forms, most beautiful and most wonderful, and it is noaccident, but the direct consequence of evolution by non-random natural selection - the only game in town, the greatest show on Earth. ~R.D.
Then I submit that if God can "heap" ocean water to its current level in one yoctosecond, He can most certainly "heap" that "tiny bit" of chalk together with no problem.
Logical fallacy. God-of-the-Gaps and violation of parsimony.
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__________________ "There is no struggle too vast, no odds too overwhelming, for ever should we fail- should we fall- we will know that we have lived." --Anomander Rake.
"We can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the dark; the real tragedy of life is when men are afraid of the light." --Plato
"I cried unto the LORD with my voice, and He heard me out of His holy hill." Psalm 3:4
"The virtuous man is never a novice in worldly things." Marcus Valerius Martialis
__________________ We are surrounded by endless forms, most beautiful and most wonderful, and it is noaccident, but the direct consequence of evolution by non-random natural selection - the only game in town, the greatest show on Earth. ~R.D.
So how did we arrive at a date for the "earliest times".
You mean, how did we get the figure of 4.54 billion years? Mainly by extra-terrestrial sources: namely, meteorites. Since they formed are pretty much the same time as the Earth and everything else in the Solar System, their age is a very good indicator of the Earth's age. There are a great many meteor fragments on Earth, which we have dated to 4.54 billion years old.
This method also corroborates nicely with the other methods we have, such as dating Moon rocks (which would be as old as the Moon itself, and hence as old as the Earth), giving us an age of 4.4-4.5 billion years.
Originally Posted by Doveaman
So the earth could be older than 4.6 billion years then?
Yep, though probably not that much older.
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Logical fallacy. God-of-the-Gaps and violation of parsimony.
It's irrational, but I don't see how it's illogical. God-of-the-gaps is an ad hoc, but not necessarily flawed, piece of logic. And parsimony refers to simplicity and probability; being unparsimonious doesn't disprove an argument outright.
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A scientific man ought to have no wishes, no affections, -- a mere heart of stone.
- Charles Darwin
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- Stargate: SG1
What can be asserted without reason, can be denied without reason.
- Anon
"A casual stroll through the lunatic asylum shows that faith does not prove anything."
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