Evidence

Really? Worship is reverence offered a divine being or supernatural power. So you don’t revere your God? Do you admire it? Do you respect it? Do you try to follow its teachings? Genesis 7:21-23 claims that your God killed every fetus, baby, toddler and child on the entire planet so just how do you feel about this indiscriminate killer of babies and children?

Who is more likely to have a beer?

Someone who has been taught that alcohol is the Devil's Brew, or someone who has been taught that alcohol is an adult beverage?

Again, emphasis on 'more likely'.

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Who is more likely to get a divorce? Who is more likely to conceive a child out of wedlock? Well, I couldn't really say, but I have read that the divorce rate and the rate of out of wedlock pregnancies are higher in the "Bible Belt".

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What's the matter, Gracchus? Didn't like my example?

Playing Homo sapiens-see/Homo sapiens-do is much easier than answering questions, isn't it?

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Depends who's asking that question.

if it's us asking you, then we get <copout>"Well Christians get tempted more!"</copout>.

I am.

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We do not know how to identify it.
If you can tell me how does a global flood deposit look like, then I can find many of it for you.

It turns out this is called 'the continuum fallacy' which is easier to understand than it is to spell.

A perfectly good example of 'absence of evidence is not evidence of absence' would be if someone 6,500 years ago spilt a cup of water. The inability of arkeologists to find evidence of it would not prove it didn't happen.

Now comes the principle of induction. Take a heap of straw, remove one single straw, is it still a heap of straw? Yes, therefore you can repeat this without it ever ceasing to be a heap of straw...

You can add another cup of water to the first one spilt and it would remain 'below the radar'.


Just as with the heap of straw, or determining when someone goes bald, the point is not usually well defined, but just because it has not been well-defined doesn't make it non existent.

Total submersion of the planet would leave lots of evidence. The 900,000 year sequence of annual precipitation bands in Antarctica would show it, human societies would come to an end, so for example hieroglyphics before the flood might be very different after, and pyramid building would cease owing to lack of manpower (the Flood came during the pyramid building era though not during the construction of a pyramid)

I am weak on biology but suspect that having just one male and one female ancestor would make a species susceptible to being wiped out by a disease, and leave a clear lack of variation. The situation with cheetahs is similar and it has proven possible to give skin grafts from one cheetah to another without rejection in around 50% of cases. I'd guess the only reason the cheetahs haven't been wiped out by disease is there are so few of them and in such a limited area they have not yet met that particular disease.


The adage 'absence of evidence is not evidence of absence' may apply to spilling a cup of water event but it certainly can not be applied to a global flood even if we have been too lazy to draw a clear dividing line between the two.

As the saying goes, "Atheists don't recognize God, Jews don't recognize Jesus, and Independent Fundamentalist Baptists don't recognize each other in the liquor store."

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Originally Posted by MorkandMindy

If a few thousand years ago someone spilt a cup of water somewhere it would not be surprising if no geological record of the event had been found

A second cup of water would not make it a geological event either, nor a third

And whether this water came from within the water cycle or came in to it from a volcano or a comet would also leave no evidence

Just because we have no evidence the flood didn’t occur doesn’t prove it didn’t

Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence

Is an adult snake evidence that the snake grew to adulthood, or could the snake have become an adult without having grown?

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