Well, there is geological evidence. But the problem is that the geological evidence there is does not point to a global flood.
I have gone through this a while ago several times.
An unusual (geological) event creates unusual (geological) features. Features created by a global flood can not be understood by comparing them with features created by normal flood as we know them, such as erosion, deposition, etc.
For this sarcastic request of evidence, I always ask: what kind of evidence you expect to see? Do you like to see a continuous layer of flood deposit around the earth? I am sorry, nobody can ever find that even the global flood were true. If you do not know what are you looking for, then you are not going to see any evidence, even it is right in front of your eye.
To me, biological evidences are more interesting and are more difficult to argue. Of course, part of the reason is that I am not a biologist. I don't really buy the fossil interpretations given by AiG or ICR people. Noah's Flood is not simply a flood. To me, it implies some critical changes of the earth in her history. In order to know where to find what as evidences, we must first know what are the problems in our knowledge about the earth's history.
For this sarcastic request of evidence, I always ask: what kind of evidence you expect to see? Do you like to see a continuous layer of flood deposit around the earth?
Yes.
Originally Posted by juvenissun
I am sorry, nobody can ever find that even the global flood were true.
Why not?
Originally Posted by juvenissun
If you do not know what are you looking for, then you are not going to see any evidence, even it is right in front of your eye.
You just claimed it didn't exist. Why are you contradicting yourself?
Originally Posted by juvenissun
To me, biological evidences are more interesting and are more difficult to argue. Of course, part of the reason is that I am not a biologist. I don't really buy the fossil interpretations given by AiG or ICR people. Noah's Flood is not simply a flood. To me, it implies some critical changes of the earth in her history. In order to know where to find what as evidences, we must first know what are the problems in our knowledge about the earth's history.
mmm... Yes, there's also the slight problem that a global flood that submerged the landmasses would have been a mass-extinction event for aquatic life.
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If you believe that your God deliberately caused a global flood then you are telling us that you willingly worship something that indiscriminately killed every fetus, every baby, every toddler and every child in the entire world. Why would you worship something like that?
If you believe that your God deliberately caused a global flood then you are telling us that you willingly worship something that indiscriminately killed every fetus, every baby, every toddler and every child in the entire world. Why would you worship something like that?
God can not look upon imperfection, that is the very foundation of the religion I was baptised into.
In a human that attribute would be called 'perfectionism' and is a fairly unpleasant neurosis, and to be told to become more like God is likely to lead to problems in his followers, and it does. A survey of the murder rate in the US showed it correlated well with church attendance rate. Various success criteria have been shown to be inversely related to church attendance.
But if the reality is that God exists and is like that then it is something we are going to have to live with.
But if the reality is that God exists and is like that then it is something we are going to have to live with.
You didn’t answer my question. Why would you actually worship something that indiscriminately kills babies? Why would anyone worship something like that?
You didn’t answer my question. Why would you actually worship something that indiscriminately kills babies? Why would anyone worship something like that?
I don't.
The First Church of Fetal Removal isn't the name of my church.
The First Church of Fetal Removal isn't the name of my church.
I think this could be a false dichotomy
In my limited experience Fundamentalist Christians are at least as likely to have an abortion as anyone else
Humanists favor contraception and support the right of the mother to make the final decision in the case of abortion but are not in favor of abortion, particularly late term.
29And it came to pass, that at midnight the LORD smote all the firstborn in the land of Egypt, from the firstborn of Pharaoh that sat on his throne unto the firstborn of the captive that was in the dungeon; and all the firstborn of cattle.
30And Pharaoh rose up in the night, he, and all his servants, and all the Egyptians; and there was a great cry in Egypt; for there was not a house where there was not one dead.(Ex 12)
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