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There is this:
From the misfit fringe of another denomination, Rome recruits the naysayers it needs to bolster what has become its own place on the margin of Catholic life. First there was Opus Dei, with its crypto-fascist origins, then there were the Holocaust-denying lovers of Latin - and now the Anglo-fundies. Come on over, guys!
From Vatican, a tainted olive branch - The Boston Globe

And there is this:
The only problem remains one of how that alienated Anglican constituency is wooed into the stalls of reaction. It is difficult to find High Church Anglicans, notably priests, who are not gay to begin with. Such moves into the Catholic communion smack of hypocrisy.
Binoy Kampmark: Heading for the Tiber

And there is this from an Episcopal Priest.
During his sermon at St. Peter’s Episcopal Church in Salem yesterday, the Rev. Paul B. Bresnahan said the Catholic Church was essentially offering itself as a “safe refuge for bigotry,’’
Episcopalians balk at Vatican’s invitation to join fold - The Boston Globe

That is not to mention the Anglicans on Christian Forums who have publically posted similar sentiments. Such a display of liberal tolerance is warming to the soul.
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The only problem remains one of how that alienated Anglican constituency is wooed into the stalls of reaction. It is difficult to find High Church Anglicans, notably priests, who are not gay to begin with. Such moves into the Catholic communion smack of hypocrisy.
*giggles* I know three High Church Anglican priests, and yup, they're all gayer than a barrel of monkeys on nitrous oxide. They're just not having the sex.
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I guess rude extreme statements get the most reactions.
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*giggles* I know three High Church Anglican priests, and yup, they're all gayer than a barrel of monkeys on nitrous oxide. They're just not having the sex.
I guess to that writer they are bad because they are actually living out their religious beliefs.

Liberal hypocricy at its finest. Celebate Gay = Bad. Gay in leather chaps parading down the street = Good.
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I guess to that writer they are bad because they are actually living out their religious beliefs.

Liberal hypocricy at its finest. Celebate Gay = Bad. Gay in leather chaps parading down the street = Good.

Except that isn't what that writer was saying. He was querying whether those priests would find a place in Rome, no matter how traditional their liturgical leanings might be.
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I guess to that writer they are bad because they are actually living out their religious beliefs.

Liberal hypocricy at its finest. Celebate Gay = Bad. Gay in leather chaps parading down the street = Good.
Aren't celebate gays still denied the priesthood in Rome? At least officially.
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Aren't celebate gays still denied the priesthood in Rome? At least officially.
I don't think so. The document in question is a bit vague. It appears that local Bishops are left with a lot of discretion to discern vocations.
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I don't think so. The document in question is a bit vague. It appears that local Bishops are left with a lot of discretion to discern vocations.
My understanding was that someone who is homosexual is considered disordered and therefore ineligable. I'm sure there are plenty of bishops that ignore that in practice - if only for the practical difficulties it presents, but...
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