Well, the likelyhood is that two sodomite guys are going to raise any children they get, with a notion that sodomy is okay and that if that's what their wards want to try out, it's okay with them.
Two straight parents couldn't possibly teach that as well?
The natural parents who end up with a child who succumbs to sodomy, will likely be concerned but will still love that child. But they might still pray that GOD brings that one back to an understanding that what that individual is doing is both harmful and sinful.
But you're claiming that gay parents will raise gay children, hence they shouldn't adopt. What about straight parents who adopt and then raise a gay child?
You see, what I'm trying to say is that your argument is faulty. If you think gay parents who raise a gay child are bad, what must you think of straight parents who raise gay children? Are they flawed somehow? Should they not be allowed to adopt or raise children? It's not about how the parent will feel about the child, but about how you feel about the straight parents who did something that you say should be a reason people can't adopt.
__________________
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. †Beckie
Society Administrator
PM me if you have any questions, if you need help or if you need prayers.
~~~~~~~~~~
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
CF is looking for moderators! If you are interested, please PM me!!
The argument is based out of pure hatred for gays. People like him have no moral compass, can't be trusted and shouldn't be listened to. The only thing that seperates him from the crazy muslims that strap bombs to themselves is that he lacks the courage of his convictions.
Two straight parents couldn't possibly teach that as well?
This isn´t even a hypothetical.
Considering how many people support gay rights and gay marriage it is safe to say that more straight persons teach their children that homosexuality is ok than there are gay persons altogether.
__________________
Why I call myself a „non-believer“ or „atheist“:
I can´t relate to any of the god concepts I´m familiar with so far.
Either I´m not convinced by the concept, or
– although not having a problem with the worldview itself -
I see no reason to call one of its elements „God“:
There are already more precise, more common, less loaded and less likely to be misunderstood terms for these elements.
E.g. I prefer to call nature „nature“, the universe „universe“ and everything „everything“.
The argument is based out of pure hatred for gays. People like him have no moral compass, can't be trusted and shouldn't be listened to. The only thing that seperates him from the crazy muslims that strap bombs to themselves is that he lacks the courage of his convictions.
But you have to admit that the term "dysfunctional" has a scientific ring to it.
__________________
Why I call myself a „non-believer“ or „atheist“:
I can´t relate to any of the god concepts I´m familiar with so far.
Either I´m not convinced by the concept, or
– although not having a problem with the worldview itself -
I see no reason to call one of its elements „God“:
There are already more precise, more common, less loaded and less likely to be misunderstood terms for these elements.
E.g. I prefer to call nature „nature“, the universe „universe“ and everything „everything“.
It boils down to this. People who want to see kids grow up in ophanages rather than with someone who lives a life they don't like, but can love them and care for them none the less, and are willing to through the complicated process of getting them, are genuinely bad people with such a twisted moral compass they end up having the push the proverbial old lady in front of a car when tryin to help her across the road.
Such people are a disgrace to humanity, their opinions on anything moral are only valuable in the sense that whatever they say is moral, is usually always immoral.
There is no legit reason for not allowing gays to adopt unwanted kids except that you hate gay people, and want to hurt them and make them suffer even if it means denying a child a good home. Their hatred of gays is only exceeded by their cowardliness to do anything about it.
__________________ First they ignore you...
Then they laugh at you...
Then they fight you...
Then you win.
Mahatma Ghandi
It boils down to this. People who want to see kids grow up in ophanages rather than with someone who lives a life they don't like, but can love them and care for them none the less, and are willing to through the complicated process of getting them, are genuinely bad people with such a twisted moral compass they end up having the push the proverbial old lady in front of a car when tryin to help her across the road.
Such people are a disgrace to humanity, their opinions on anything moral are only valuable in the sense that whatever they say is moral, is usually always immoral.
There is no legit reason for not allowing gays to adopt unwanted kids except that you hate gay people, and want to hurt them and make them suffer even if it means denying a child a good home. Their hatred of gays is only exceeded by their cowardliness to do anything about it.
- Except that being gay is a perversion. Why should anyone allow a person that perverts God's moral standard, to adopt a child, and teach that child moral perversion; if only by the child seeing that it is okay to be perverted by virtue of the parents being perverted?
- It must be okay to be gay because my parents are gay.
- Christians do not hate gay people, they hate the sin. We love gay people and want them to turn away from sin and towards Jesus Christ. But we cannot promote something that God tells us not to do in His Word.
- He gives us His standard in Genesis 2:24 - Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.
__________________ * * Now I Nebuchadnezzar praise To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. and extol and honor To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. the King of heaven, all whose works are truth, and His ways judgment: and those that walk in pride To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. He is able to abase * *
- Except that being gay is a perversion. Why should anyone allow a person that perverts God's moral standard, to adopt a child, and teach that child moral perversion; if only by the child seeing that it is okay to be perverted by virtue of the parents being perverted?
- It must be okay to be gay because my parents are gay.
- Christians do not hate gay people, they hate the sin. We love gay people and want them to turn away from sin and towards Jesus Christ.
I know plenty of gay Christians. What happens do you suppose to them? They love God and act compassionately. They help the homeless.....just like Jesus asked. They believe...but yet, what do you suppose God will do with them? Will they be cast into a fiery inferno where straight Christians will watch as they writhe in agony for all eternity praising Jesus the whole time?
__________________ It is customary to blame secular science and anti-religious philosophy for the eclipse of religion in modern society. It would be more honest to blame religion for its own defeats. Religion declined not because it was refuted, but because it became irrelevant, oppressive, insipid. When faith is replaced by creed, worship by discipline, love by habit; when religion speaks only in the name of authority rather than with the voice of compassion -- its message becomes meaningless. - Abraham Heschel
I know plenty of gay Christians. What happens do you suppose to them? They love God and act compassionately. They help the homeless.....just like Jesus asked. They believe...but yet, what do you suppose God will do with them? Will they be cast into a fiery inferno where straight Christians will watch as they writhe in agony for all eternity praising Jesus the whole time?
- Again, there is no such thing as a gay Christian. When one is in Christ old things are past away, all things have become new. And such were some of you, but you are washed, you are sanctified, but you are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.
- Do you think that there will be homosexuals in Heaven? How about murderers? Thieves? Liars? Adulterers? Fornicators? Is there any corruption in heaven?
__________________ * * Now I Nebuchadnezzar praise To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. and extol and honor To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. the King of heaven, all whose works are truth, and His ways judgment: and those that walk in pride To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. He is able to abase * *
- Again, there is no such thing as a gay Christian. When one is in Christ old things are past away, all things have become new. And such were some of you, but you are washed, you are sanctified, but you are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.
- Do you think that there will be homosexuals in Heaven? How about murderers? Thieves? Liars? Adulterers? Fornicators? Is there any corruption in heaven?
I don't see how you are in a position to tell anyone who is in heaven.
Considering that your religion states that all of us are sinners, that none of us humans are in a position to judge others, that those that seek forgiveness for their sins are pardoned due to the mercy of God... I don't see how you can say anything on this matter with any certainty.
Who went to heaven - the good Samaritan or the Pharisees? Both? Neither? You have no idea.
- Again, there is no such thing as a gay Christian. When one is in Christ old things are past away, all things have become new. And such were some of you, but you are washed, you are sanctified, but you are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.
- Do you think that there will be homosexuals in Heaven? How about murderers? Thieves? Liars? Adulterers? Fornicators? Is there any corruption in heaven?
You are edging close to breaking the forum rules here, in that you are trying to say that some people who identify as Christian are not actualy Christians.
IIRC, the definition of 'Christian' on this site is someone who accepts the Nicean Creed. There is nothing in the Creed that rules out homosexuality.
Paul's letters are not part of the Gospels, and a reading of them that considers the cultural context of the time in which he was writing them and of the groups he was writing to does not support a blanket condemnation of commited relationships either.
Linear Mode
