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27th October 2009, 07:11 AM
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Reps: 21,035,414,649,071,584 (power: 21,035,414,649,077) | | Originally Posted by Fantine As I understand it, all prospective adoptive parents, whether married, single, or partnered, have to undergo extensive home visits and studies and get references and recommendations.
If there is a shortage of adoptive homes and a surplus of children available for adoption (including hard-to-place children) then I think it is our duty as a society to allow all those who pass the home studies to adopt. Where a potential parent is single or part of a gay partnership, the home study should see how the applicants plan on providing loving role models who are of a different sex than the parents.
As in interracial adoptions, where white families are asked whether they will help their child to establish his/her racial identity through their own interracial friendships and community relationships, gay applicants should be asked whether they have a network of heterosexual friends who will help their child, if straight (and the odds are likely that he/she will be), to feel that sense of cultural identity as well.
Gay adoptive parents and single unattached adoptive parents may not be "ideal" but they are certainly more ideal than insecure years spent in foster care.
Agreed.
I would also say that a same-sex couple with a wide network of friends and family would provide a better cultural environment than an isolated opposite-sex couple with no surviving relatives or close friends.
It won't affect their ability to be good parents, but a wide range of good examples and a strong support network is certainly useful for all concerned.
Additional thought- people who adopt actively want to bring up a child and have demonstrated a willingness to make the necessary sacrifices. They will have to carefully consider every stage in a child's life.
Same-sex or opposite-sex, it's a good start to parenting. | 
27th October 2009, 06:07 PM
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Reps: 10 (power: 0) | | A same-sex couple can be just as good parents as opposite-sex couples no matter what situation. The real reason really I think many people may have concern is that the children perhaps will have a tendency to be homosexual. Of course they've done studies and the children all turn out to be just like any other child.
We all do realize that pretty much all the homosexuals in the world were raised by an opposite-sex couple. If you want to prevent homosexuality, perhaps you should try and get heterosexual marriage banned | 
27th October 2009, 06:15 PM
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It is not less ideal. Those that make this claim should offer compelling support or retract it. | 
27th October 2009, 07:15 PM
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Reps: 107,496,095,549,249,776 (power: 107,496,095,549,260) | | Originally Posted by levi501 A same-sex couple should have as much right to adopt as an opposite-sex couple.
It is not less ideal. Those that make this claim should offer compelling support or retract it.
Tell me what part of the country first. Historically children have been toremented by their peers because of having just one living parent. I am convinced that in some areas a child would suffer, through no fault of their own or the parents because of having 2 parents of the same sex. This is real and should be considered. Of course there are other areas where it is no consideration at all.
Same holds for mixed race couples in some areas, though there if the child is mixed race then the child is going to have that problem in in those areas no matter what.
Personally if I were gay and in such an area I'd be trying to get myself elsewhere anyway. That said I'd say these are likely the same areas where gays have a nearly impossible time adapting anyway. | 
28th October 2009, 04:42 AM
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Reps: 10 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by keith99 Tell me what part of the country first. Historically children have been toremented by their peers because of having just one living parent. I am convinced that in some areas a child would suffer, through no fault of their own or the parents because of having 2 parents of the same sex. This is real and should be considered. Of course there are other areas where it is no consideration at all.
Same holds for mixed race couples in some areas, though there if the child is mixed race then the child is going to have that problem in in those areas no matter what.
Personally if I were gay and in such an area I'd be trying to get myself elsewhere anyway. That said I'd say these are likely the same areas where gays have a nearly impossible time adapting anyway.
I noticed that in your two posts that you say "adapt" instead of "adopt" is that a typo or do you mean "adapt"?
Just a little confused | 
28th October 2009, 05:19 AM
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Reps: 122,811,221,000 (power: 122,811,232) | | Originally Posted by keith99 Tell me what part of the country first. Historically children have been toremented by their peers because of having just one living parent. I am convinced that in some areas a child would suffer, through no fault of their own or the parents because of having 2 parents of the same sex. This is real and should be considered.
I think it should be considered by the couple, for sure, but not by the state.
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28th October 2009, 08:19 AM
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Reps: 69,155,549,601 (power: 69,155,554) | | Originally Posted by cantata People, please. It is not gay adoption. It is not homosexual adoption. It is adoption by a same-sex couple.
Same thing really. No need to mince words.
I agree with most of the folks in this thread, orientation doesn't mean squat. Not sure what Keith means about it being drastically worse to have one parent though. My dad died when I was relatively young and I never was teased about it, not once in my life. I never got teased about my black step-dad either.
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28th October 2009, 08:27 AM
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Thanks for your OP and thread question. I say this especially in the light of perceived intimidation over this issue. The California Association of Marriage and Family Therapists (CAMFT) published a special issue of their bi-monthly journal “The Therapist” dedicated to the subject of same-sex marriage. Guest authors were asked to contribute articles, half of the writers in support and half opposed to same-sex marriage. A stated goal of the issue was to determine whether the organization should adopt a formal position on the matter.
So someone who might be genuinley open minded about this is very welcome.
Its about same sex couples adopting rather than homosexuals adopting, as has been pointed out, this is because a homosexual man and a homosexual woman could adopt as a couple, and indeed under such an arrangement I suggest many who would disagree with same sex couples adopting, might agree that this is much better.
Its not about the sexual attraction of the couple but the sex of the couple.
As a Christian I would point out God's purpose is for man and woman to produce and raise children so same sex couples are error. However I would overall say this.
A same sex couple cannot conceive and produce a child so compared with a man and woman neither nature nor God has designed a one sex couple to produce and raise children.
With a man and woman, the child, whatever sex will always have both a male and female parent to raise it, whereas with a same sex couple it will never have a male and female.
The issue about love is a completly different issue, either combination could be considered loving or not loving so its irrelevant as love is a requirement whatever.
Now my view is also that some single people adopt and there have been same sex couples such as two sisters who have adopted. So the problem isnt just two people of the same sex but where two people of the same sex consider themselves equal with a man and woman couple they are outside the reality of why there are two sexes to reproduce in the first place. Such unbalanced and dysfunctional thinking is not good for the child. | 
28th October 2009, 10:43 AM
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The issue about love is a completly different issue, either combination could be considered loving or not loving so its irrelevant as love is a requirement whatever.
But the quality of the parents' relationship is critically important. If they show love, devotion, and respect towards each other, the children will absorb that. But if the parents' relationship is cold, distant, argumentative, disrespectful, or worse, abusive, then a child will have to overcome a terrible lesson in how adults behave. It certainly could warp his future relationships. You're entitled to your opinion, but I think this is far more important than the sex of the parents. I'd say a loving, committed same sex couple would provide a much better environment for well-adjusted children than an undevoted, unloving man and woman.
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28th October 2009, 10:44 AM
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Reps: 831,305,512,503 (power: 831,305,523) | | Originally Posted by keith99 Tell me what part of the country first. Historically children have been toremented by their peers because of having just one living parent. I am convinced that in some areas a child would suffer, through no fault of their own or the parents because of having 2 parents of the same sex. This is real and should be considered. Of course there are other areas where it is no consideration at all.
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