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In John 14, the Ultimate Role Model teaches us how to react to those being stupid with us. It is revealed that at the Last Supper Jesus’ disciples, Thomas and Philip in particular, were still looking at Jesus with one eye wide open (as though, saying “rrrreally?”): sceptical. Even after all that Jesus had done and said, the disciples still questioned whether Jesus is the Son of God. In a way, they were being stupid. How Jesus reacted should guide how we should react when people behave stupidly toward us.
Jesus remained calm and composed. He gently explained why He is right, but did not force them to agree with Him. No belittling was done, and the issue was not argued endlessly. Jesus expected the truth to do the work of setting the disciples straight. In contrast, we often throw up our hands in the air and do not respond to the stupidity, or we lash out in anger so that we become hated.
We are to be hopeful rather than frustrated when dealing with stupidity. What is stupid is often interpreted relatively, because no one can know all the variables that make one behave the way they do. Therefore, it is ideal to apply the Golden Rule when dealing with stupidity; that is, treat the one behaving stupidly the way you would want to be treated: see the previous paragraph. The big benefit of doing it Jesus’ way is that we do not allow frustration and anger to eat us up.
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But I think that OFTEN, people confuse discussion with fighting. Disagreeing is not personal, it is not an attack, it is not disrespectful or flaming, it is not offensive per se. It ONLY means, "I disagree." Nothing more. Nothing less. It suggests NO emotional response whatsoever.
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Reps: 9,223,372,036,854,775,808 (power: 9,223,372,036,854,846) | | Originally Posted by BrotherOfJesusChrist  In John 14, the Ultimate Role Model teaches us how to react to those being stupid with us. It is revealed that at the Last Supper Jesus’ disciples, Thomas and Philip in particular, were still looking at Jesus with one eye wide open (as though, saying “rrrreally?”): sceptical. Even after all that Jesus had done and said, the disciples still questioned whether Jesus is the Son of God. In a way, they were being stupid. How Jesus reacted should guide how we should react when people behave stupidly toward us.
Jesus remained calm and composed. He gently explained why He is right, but did not force them to agree with Him. No belittling was done, and the issue was not argued endlessly. Jesus expected the truth to do the work of setting the disciples straight. In contrast, we often throw up our hands in the air and do not respond to the stupidity, or we lash out in anger so that we become hated.
We are to be hopeful rather than frustrated when dealing with stupidity. What is stupid is often interpreted relatively, because no one can know all the variables that make one behave the way they do. Therefore, it is ideal to apply the Golden Rule when dealing with stupidity; that is, treat the one behaving stupidly the way you would want to be treated: see the previous paragraph. The big benefit of doing it Jesus’ way is that we do not allow frustration and anger to eat us up.
This is of course the right answer
...but a good slap in the face with a loud "Wake up!" has it's place too 
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Reps: 95,798,172,692,379,840 (power: 95,798,172,692,383) | | Originally Posted by BrotherOfJesusChrist In John 14, the Ultimate Role Model teaches us how to react to those being stupid with us. It is revealed that at the Last Supper Jesus’ disciples, Thomas and Philip in particular, were still looking at Jesus with one eye wide open (as though, saying “rrrreally?”): sceptical. Even after all that Jesus had done and said, the disciples still questioned whether Jesus is the Son of God. In a way, they were being stupid. How Jesus reacted should guide how we should react when people behave stupidly toward us.
Jesus remained calm and composed. He gently explained why He is right, but did not force them to agree with Him. No belittling was done, and the issue was not argued endlessly. Jesus expected the truth to do the work of setting the disciples straight. In contrast, we often throw up our hands in the air and do not respond to the stupidity, or we lash out in anger so that we become hated.
We are to be hopeful rather than frustrated when dealing with stupidity. What is stupid is often interpreted relatively, because no one can know all the variables that make one behave the way they do. Therefore, it is ideal to apply the Golden Rule when dealing with stupidity; that is, treat the one behaving stupidly the way you would want to be treated: see the previous paragraph. The big benefit of doing it Jesus’ way is that we do not allow frustration and anger to eat us up.
And yet, on other occasions, Jesus sharply counters ignorance. I'm thinking of some of his interactions with the Pharisees.
(If you don't mind, I'm going to call it "ignorance" rather than" stupidity.")
Seems to me that Jesus is somewhat inconsistent in his dealings with ignorance. You could argue that the Pharisees' hearts were in the wrong place, and that is enough to account for the difference. If that's true, though, then we are justified in responding sharply to (willful?) ignorance on some occasions.
Not in private, but sometimes in public. That's my thinking.
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Reps: 24,160,000,787,179,980 (power: 24,160,000,787,193) | | Originally Posted by Timothew I see stupid people.
They're all around me.
They don't even know that they're stupid.
Yes, I see them too..
But I also see that I'm stupid and ignorant most times too... we're all blind to certain degrees in all things...
It's having patience with them... because that's how I'd like people to treat me....
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Reps: 127,951,802,650 (power: 127,951,806) | | Originally Posted by ittarter And yet, on other occasions, Jesus sharply counters ignorance. I'm thinking of some of his interactions with the Pharisees.
(If you don't mind, I'm going to call it "ignorance" rather than" stupidity.")
Seems to me that Jesus is somewhat inconsistent in his dealings with ignorance. You could argue that the Pharisees' hearts were in the wrong place, and that is enough to account for the difference. If that's true, though, then we are justified in responding sharply to (willful?) ignorance on some occasions.
Not in private, but sometimes in public. That's my thinking.
this is true, yet i think the sharp rebuke is more needed in the cases where the individual in question is as you suggested "willfully ignorant" such as those who do in fact know the right thing, but the knowingly forget or ignore that truth. for those who are indeed just plain stupid though (sorry i don't go for all that PC stuff  ) BoJC is on point.
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