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26th October 2009, 11:58 AM
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Reps: 2,507,084,308,916,044 (power: 2,507,084,308,930) | | | Where can I find the Republican Healthcare Plan? I can only find summarization bullet point ideas, but not a plan?
Where's that plan they were holding up to Obama when he made his joint session speech?
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26th October 2009, 12:08 PM
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26th October 2009, 12:40 PM
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26th October 2009, 12:48 PM
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26th October 2009, 01:07 PM
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Reps: 1,495,147,958,621,932,544 (power: 1,495,147,958,621,946) | | Originally Posted by JoyJuice I can only find summarization bullet point ideas, but not a plan?
Where's that plan they were holding up to Obama when he made his joint session speech? Here, here, and here.
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26th October 2009, 01:38 PM
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Reps: 46,305,083,762,897,352 (power: 46,305,083,762,919) | | | The Republican plan is not a plan per se, but a plan to allow market forces to work in health care once again. That will be the only way to reign in costs. People don't see the actual cost of their healthcare so they have no incentive to look for the "best price". Health care providers know insurers are basically stuck paying whatever they charge so providers have no incentive to become more efficient/lower costs. It ends up being a lose/lose situation. The way to really screw things up is to leave the system we have now in place and try to force price controls-that will backfire and have other negative consequences.
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26th October 2009, 01:44 PM
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First, we get lathered up that we gotta pass something, anything, that "no bill" is more horrible than ebola. Yet, well, we've kinda made it this far without one so maybe getting it right is worth the time and effort.
Secondly, that a republican doesnt have a 1500 page behometh to hold up thats labeled "PLAN" is NOT an argument in favor of Obama's plan. Otherwise, please realize what you are saying, that the Obama plan isnt necessarily good....but is the only one we have.....NICE! | 
26th October 2009, 02:37 PM
|  | homo unis libri / εραστής της φρόνησης 48  | | Join Date: 3rd December 2004 Location: Sowega
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It's more likely to work than getting one from the party of "no".
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26th October 2009, 02:43 PM
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26th October 2009, 04:38 PM
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Reps: 111,713,900,778,221,888 (power: 111,713,900,778,240) | | | It does seem sometimes that the Republican plan is to simply shout 'Socialism!' at every Democratic proposal.
'Socialism' is used as a trump card just like 9/11 was sometimes used as a trump card by the Bush administration.
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