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26th October 2009, 11:29 PM
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Reps: 4,764,076,357,041,536,000 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by reverend C  i believe you ignore the obvious results of her positions.
Well, one would first have to know and understand her positions before one could know the potential consequences, and you know neither, so you wont mind if I dont take your advice on this subject either. you are also myopic about how Christians relate to the bible. you are not speaking to me, but rather to a stereotype you have embraced that has no relevance to our conversation. you are making arguments against the ones i joust with regularly on these threads. go villify them. find out who you are talking with before you try to outsmart them. you'll have a fighting chance.
as for the capitals line, you've used it before. it was boring then. it's simply lazy now. perhaps you're just tired tonight.
Talk about an unfocused post. I have no idea what you just said. |
26th October 2009, 11:33 PM
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Reps: 558,118,136,297,619 (power: 558,118,136,301) | | Originally Posted by lordbt Well, one would first have to know and understand her positions before one could know the potential consequences, and you know neither, so you wont mind if I dont take your advice on this subject either.
like i said, when it comes to ayn rand, who cares? just like other fundamentalists, you believe your understanding of her is the "right" one, and all others are flawed. the fred phelps of libertarianism.
Talk about an unfocused post. I have no idea what you just said. sure you do. goodnight. you'll do better tomorrow. |
26th October 2009, 11:33 PM
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Reps: 4,764,076,357,041,536,000 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by JoyJuice I stopped soon as I read "The left believes the solution is government control".....because that is absolutely false. Do I have to explain how the public option works again?
Listen, if you want to make the argument that the 1500 page bill about to hit the Senate floor does not mean greater government control of health care and the lives of every American citizen, then make it with someone else. I am not interested. I cant make the self-evident more evident. |
26th October 2009, 11:37 PM
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Reps: 558,118,136,297,619 (power: 558,118,136,301) | | Originally Posted by lordbt Listen, if you want to make the argument that the 1500 page bill about to hit the Senate floor does not mean greater government control of health care and the lives of every American citizen, then make it with someone else. I am not interested. I cant make the self-evident more evident.
how odd. taking pride in your failure to communicate.
by the way, i decided to take pity on your inability to look up "eschew". my church is not tax-exempt. i am not an inerrantist in regards to the "black book of commands". you are making arguments that have no relevance to me.
did i dumb it down enough now? |
26th October 2009, 11:41 PM
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Reps: 2,507,084,308,916,044 (power: 2,507,084,308,930) | | Originally Posted by lordbt Listen, if you want to make the argument that the 1500 page bill about to hit the Senate floor does not mean greater government control of health care and the lives of every American citizen, then make it with someone else. I am not interested. I cant make the self-evident more evident.
It means an opportunity to offer a plan that is Government administered, just like the example of all the private courier services, and the option of the postal service. I do agree the intent is to influence private industry but "control" and "influence" are all together two different words with two different meanings.
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26th October 2009, 11:46 PM
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Reps: 4,764,076,357,041,536,000 (power: 0) | | just like other fundamentalists, you believe your understanding of her is the "right" one, and all others are flawed.
I never made such a claim. I didnt say everyones understanding was flawed, just yours. Actually, not just yours. You are the fourth or fifth person on this site to attack her philosophy without having ever opened a single one of her books. Do you always attack authors without reading their material or just her?
goodnight. you'll do better tomorrow.
I honestly didnt understand what you said, but yes, I have had enough for tonight.
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26th October 2009, 11:49 PM
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Reps: 4,764,076,357,041,536,000 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by JoyJuice It means an opportunity to offer a plan that is Government administered, just like the example of all the private courier services, and the option of the postal service.
The postal service is not an option it is a monopoly. Fedex and UPS are barred by law from competing with it. They cannot deliver mail in the form of non-urgent letters. Only the post office can legally do that. If you want to send a letter, you have one option. |
26th October 2009, 11:54 PM
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Reps: 558,118,136,297,619 (power: 558,118,136,301) | | Originally Posted by lordbt I never made such a claim. I didnt say everyones understanding was flawed, just yours. Actually, not just yours. You are the fourth or fifth person on this site to attack her philosophy without having ever opened a single one of her books. Do you always attack authors without reading their material or just her?
i am sure you will cite proof of your statements. never mind. you have showed your cards. finding her philosophy humiliating means, ipso facto, i have not read her. the essence of fundamentalism.
I honestly didnt understand what you said, but yes, I have had enough for tonight.
i translated it for you. look up a couple of posts. if you need it simplified more, i'll try.
but i honestly don't think i needed to do the first one.
goodnight. |
27th October 2009, 12:12 AM
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Reps: 4,764,076,357,041,536,000 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by reverend C i am sure you will cite proof of your statements. never mind. you have showed your cards. finding her philosophy humiliating means, ipso facto, i have not read her. the essence of fundamentalism.
But you havent read anything she has written, if you had you would have mentioned it by now. You are pretending to know what you are talking about when it is obvious that you dont. Instead of admit this, you attack me. If you have a legitimate criticism of any of her positions, lets hear it. If I am wrong about your lack of knowledge of her philosophy, here is your big chance to prove it. |
27th October 2009, 01:39 AM
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Reps: 19,391,142,157,809,696 (power: 19,391,142,157,824) | | Originally Posted by JoyJuice I can only find summarization bullet point ideas, but not a plan?
Where's that plan they were holding up to Obama when he made his joint session speech?  | | |
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