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Old 6th November 2009, 12:41 AM
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Just wondering: Jesus Christ is God's standard of measurement he will judge and measure everyone by. There is a certain version of the Bible that is constantly brought up to make comparisons with. If you stand side by side with the sinless Jesus Christ 9unless you are in him) you will never measure up and will perish. Someone is always putting versions of the Bible up against one certain version. Again, Just wondering?
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Originally Posted by Vince53 View Post
There are actually two points, although they overlap.

Many Godly Christians have been deceived into believing that the King James Version IS the Word of God, and it is sinful to use any other translation. One of the many problems with this error is that there is more than one KJV.

The other point is that using a GOOD modern translation opens up the meaning of the Word of God more clearly. It is not a sin, and there is no Biblical authority for preaching that it is a sin, to use another translation.
I agree with everything you're saying. Even though I do not believe many KJV Only people will listen to your sage words, my prayers are with you. If you can open one person's eyes, or stop one person going down that road, it will be worth it.
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Originally Posted by Live In Stereo View Post
Just wondering: Jesus Christ is God's standard of measurement he will judge and measure everyone by. There is a certain version of the Bible that is constantly brought up to make comparisons with. If you stand side by side with the sinless Jesus Christ 9unless you are in him) you will never measure up and will perish. Someone is always putting versions of the Bible up against one certain version. Again, Just wondering?
It isn't that everyone naturally gravitates to comparing other translations with that certain version, but that stubborn adherents of that certain version insist on comparing everything else with it.
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Originally Posted by Vince53 View Post
Well, there's a problem answering your question. The first KJV, printed in 1611, had an error when it referred to Ruth as "he." The second edition, also printed in 1611, and designed to be exactly identical to the first edition in every other respect, corrected the error.

But the 1611 KJV was a "folio," meaning that each page was printed separately, and they were not designed to be bound together into a book. Different printers printed different pages, and there are some contradictions. The British Museum and the Royal College of Scotland each set out to assemble a complete 1611 KJV, and they both succeeded. Unfortunately, the two have slight contradictions. We don't know which pages were from which edition or which printer, and well, uhm...

The original King James Version has disappeared, and we cannot be sure of the text.
I'm a KJVO and this is a non-issue. The 1611 had printing errors, yes(you should study about the printing press back then on how easily it was to make an error), but the context is still the same in today's King James Bibles.

Go here to read more about this issue...

"KJV of 1611: The Myth of Early Revisions" by David Reagan

Now go ahead and bash me because I believe that I hold God's word in my hands, but before you do, where is the word of God since He promised to preserve His word for every generation?(Psalms 12:6-7 KJV) In the "originals" that no one has or has ever seen?(Jeremiah 36:23) Maybe in the 100's of Greek texts that all differ from each other? Or maybe one of the new versions that corrupt the precious deity of Christ.

Psalms 12:6 "The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.
7 Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever."
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The Incredible Question Mark?

Should there be a question mark at the end of this verse?

Jeremiah 32:5 And he shall lead Zedekiah to Babylon, and there shall he be until I visit him, saith the LORD: though ye fight with the Chaldeans, ye shall not prosper.

Obviously, there should not. And the 1611 KJV, as well as the 1769 revision that most of us are using, does not put a question mark at the end. But the 1900 Cambridge Edition of the KJV did, and they are correct.

Huh?

It seems that verse 5 is the third verse of a sentence that begins in verse 3, and the sentence is a question (I added the capitalization):
3 For Zedekiah king of Judah had shut him up, saying, WHEREFORE dost thou prophesy, and say, Thus saith the LORD, Behold, I will give this city into the hand of the king of Babylon, and he shall take it;
4 And Zedekiah king of Judah shall not escape out of the hand of the Chaldeans, but shall surely be delivered into the hand of the king of Babylon, and shall speak with him mouth to mouth, and his eyes shall behold his eyes;
5 And he shall lead Zedekiah to Babylon, and there shall he be until I visit him, saith the LORD: though ye fight with the Chaldeans, ye shall not prosper.

There should be a question mark at the end of verse 5, and if your KJV doesn't have one, it is not preserved from error. But the important thing is this: THE ORIGINAL 1611 KJV DID NOT HAVE A QUESTION MARK AT THE END OF VERSE 5. IT WAS NOT PRESERVED FROM ERROR.
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I have many different copies and editions of the King James Version in my study, so I took a look at them to see how they differ. I found Matt. 4:2 especially interesting. Here is a summary of what found. Notice the last phrase in that verse.

Mat 4:2 And when hee had fasted forty dayes and forty nights, hee was afterward an hungred. 1611

Mat 4:2 And when he had fasted forty days and forty nights, he was afterward an hungered. 1817

Mat 4:2 And when he had fasted forty days and forty nights, he was afterward a hungered. 1824

Mat 4:2 And when he had fasted forty days and forty nights, he was afterward an hungred. 1867

Mat 4:2 And when he had fasted forty days and forty nights, he was afterward a hungered. 1874

Mat 4:2 And when he had fasted forty days and forty nights, he was afterward an hungred. 1898

Mat 4:2 And when he had fasted forty days and forty nights, he was afterward an hungred. No date, Oxford Bible

Mat 4:2 And when he had fasted forty days and forty nights, he was afterward an hungred. 1917, Scofield Bible (Oxford)

Mat 4:2 And when he had fasted forty days and forty nights, he was afterward an hungred. No date, recent, Oxford Bible

Mat 4:2 And when he had fasted forty days and forty nights, he was afterward an hungred. No date, recent, Cambridge Bible

Mat 4:2 And when he had fasted forty days and forty nights, he was afterward ahungered. 1971, American Bible Society


We find here five different renderings of the last phrase in Matt. 4:2, all them in the KJV:

hee was afterward an hungred.
he was afterward an hungered.
he was afterward a hungered.
he was afterward an hungred.
he was afterward ahungered.
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