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26th October 2009, 03:01 PM
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Reps: 1,505,485,233 (power: 1,505,488) | | | "It would seem that the theory of the origin of the universe was developed by a highly religious man, and that his theory might have been influenced by his religious beliefs."
it would seem you're trying to make a connection here that doesn't exist.
btw, you're a bit out of date if you're still thinking we only got the math from 1966.
"So why is there so much conflict between religion and science?"
there only is one when you try to force science in the literal interpretation of a holy book written by ignorant people. once you start taking the bible metaphorically. all of the quabbles with science start to disappear like snow in the sun. of course...for most people that is quite a step.
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26th October 2009, 03:05 PM
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Reps: 1,505,485,233 (power: 1,505,488) | | | "Am I wrong in concluding that it is sin that is killing us and not nature?"
wrong as wrong can be.
to understand why. follow some biology courses.
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26th October 2009, 03:24 PM
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Reps: 120,598,226,738,586,336 (power: 120,598,226,738,594) | | Originally Posted by random325nicaea  btw, you're a bit out of date if you're still thinking we only got the math from 1966. If the math was wrong back then who is to say it isn't wrong now. I'm sure back then the math was believable, even more believable than it is today. But yet it was wrong. Believable but wrong. That pretty much sums up the big bang theory.
there only is one when you try to force science in the literal interpretation of a holy book written by ignorant people. once you start taking the bible metaphorically. all of the quabbles with science start to disappear like snow in the sun. of course...for most people that is quite a step.
Would you also be referring to Fr. Lemaitre?
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26th October 2009, 03:33 PM
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Reps: 205,146,621,849,477,600 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by Doveaman If the math was wrong back then who is to say it isn't wrong now. I'm sure back then the math was believable, even more believable than it is today. But yet it was wrong. Believable but wrong. That pretty much sums up the big bang theory.
Math is either right or wrong. Not "believable."
How many times have you had to be corrected on this?
I also find it mildly ironic that you make this claim when you haven't even attempted to put a single math-based argument forward relating to the Big Bang theory. Would you also be referring to Fr. Lemaitre?
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26th October 2009, 03:35 PM
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Reps: 9,223,372,036,854,775,808 (power: 9,223,372,036,856,908) | | Originally Posted by Doveaman If the math was wrong back then who is to say it isn't wrong now.  --- Whatever you do, please don't mention Pi.
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Reps: 205,146,621,849,477,600 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by AV1611VET --- Whatever you do, please don't mention Pi.
He can mention it all he wants - that isn't our problem. |
26th October 2009, 03:39 PM
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Reps: 9,223,372,036,854,775,808 (power: 9,223,372,036,856,908) | | Originally Posted by Cabal He can mention it all he wants - that isn't our problem.
I think that one went over your head, didn't it?
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Reps: 205,146,621,849,477,600 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by AV1611VET I think that one went over your head, didn't it?
You would know.... |
26th October 2009, 04:06 PM
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Reps: 420,956,954,470,510,592 (power: 420,956,954,470,530) | | Originally Posted by AV1611VET Because science has to cater to nature, and nature is hostile to God.
For instance, God says death is His enemy, but science teaches death as an integral part of nature.
Death to animate objects (evolution), as well as death to inanimate objects (entropy) are routine predictions in science.
In addition, nature places demands on life that God never intended to put us through.
Fight or flight, survival of the fittest, pain, struggles, and worry are not something God intended for us.
In the end, God is going to intervene and put an end to His enemies.
We just need to be patient.
That's a pretty good summation.
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Reps: 9,223,372,036,854,775,808 (power: 9,223,372,036,856,908) | | Originally Posted by aisy_Day That's a pretty good summation.  --- Thank you.
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