Disclaimer: In neither video does the subject turn towards anti-religion. He actually says in the beginning that he has "done that book and got the T-shirt".
I have been saying for years that there is no difference between a creationist and a holocaust denier and since being here I have even found a few who reject both.
__________________ The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie -- deliberate, contrived and dishonest, but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic. Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.
-JFK
War is God's was of teaching Americans geography.
-Unknown
"since being here I have even found a few who reject both."
by which you mean evolution and the holocaust?
That's how I read the statement; the other way doesn't make sense.
__________________ - Daisy
If such people were amenable to facts, they would have gotten the point long ago...Whatever it is that is blocking the understanding of the "denialist", it is not access to facts or information. The blockage is most likely emotional, possibly based on fear, and one does not most effectively deal with emotional barriers by using facts as instruments of assault and battery. - Dan Murphy
Ehhh...personally I think he should stick to his languages analogy. It's a better analogy and makes the point without running the same risk of alienating people further.
Can't Dawkins think of anything original to say? This poorly made analogy had already been proposed in Michael Shermer's Why People Believe Weird Things.
Can't Dawkins think of anything original to say? This poorly made analogy had already been proposed in Michael Shermer's Why People Believe Weird Things.
Tell us why you think it is a poor analogy.
__________________ "We must abandon the prevalent belief in the superior wisdom of the ignorant." – Daniel Boorstin
"Ignorance should NOT be tolerated just because it's cloaked in religion."
-Phred
"Creationists can't all be right but they can all be wrong."
-Frumious Bandersnatch
Because it's paradoxically ironic in light of the fact that most Holocaust deniers (erm, Bobby Fischer was one) usually equate the Holocaust with creationism itself, seeing them both as Jewish religious mythologies. Moreover, there are no creationists in jail because of their views about biology.
Incidentally, there's far more documented evidence for the Holocaust than for macroevolution:
Goebbels diaries, March 27, 1942
Beginning with Lublin, the Jews in the General Government are now being evacuated eastward. The procedure is a pretty barbaric one and not to be described here more definitely. Not much will remain of the Jews. On the whole it can be said that about 60 per cent of them will have to be liquidated whereas only about 40 per cent can be used for forced labour.