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2nd November 2009, 05:32 AM
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Reps: 75,142,064,124,300,000 (power: 75,142,064,124,315) | | Originally Posted by AV1611VET  I know you're just blowing smoke, but you're actually making my point for me.
I'm making your point? I thought you stuck your head in a pencil sharpener! 
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Reps: 64,500,400,981,488,344 (power: 64,500,400,981,493) | | Originally Posted by AV1611VET Adam did not have a belly button --- y-Adam did.
Eve did not have a belly button --- mtDNA Eve did.
If anything is Omphalos, it's evolution.
Neither y-Adam or mtDNA Eve necessarily had belly buttons if they came before placental mammals, they only do if they came after. If someone actually knows please post.
Regardless y-Adam and mtDNA Eve weren't the first humans, nor were they even human themselves.
Do you understand what Omphalos even means?
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Reps: 9,223,372,036,854,775,808 (power: 9,223,372,036,856,908) | | Originally Posted by Wedjat Neither y-Adam or mtDNA Eve necessarily had belly buttons if they came before placental mammals, they only do if they came after. If someone actually knows please post.
Regardless y-Adam and mtDNA Eve weren't the first humans, nor were they even human themselves.
Do you understand what Omphalos even means? That I didn't know.
If that is true, then my apologies --- I've been chasing a rabbit.
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Reps: 64,500,400,981,488,344 (power: 64,500,400,981,493) | | Originally Posted by AV1611VET That I didn't know.
If that is true, then my apologies --- I've been chasing a rabbit.
After a little more internet research I discovered that I made a mistake. y-Adam and mtDNA Eve were direct common ancestors of all humans based on mitochondrial DNA and the y chromosome (not the first instances of mitochondria or a y chromosome as I had previously thought, that's what I get for skim reading), so yes, they did have belly buttons, sorry for that.
However, they were of ancestral species of humans, so no, still not human.
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Reps: 9,223,372,036,854,775,808 (power: 9,223,372,036,856,908) | | Originally Posted by Wedjat After a little more internet research I discovered that I made a mistake. y-Adam and mtDNA Eve were direct common ancestors of all humans based on mitochondrial DNA and the y chromosome (not the first instances of mitochondria or a y chromosome as I had previously thought, that's what I get for skim reading), so yes, they did have belly buttons, sorry for that.
However, they were of ancestral species of humans, so no, still not human.
I didn't know that.
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What is and isn't 'convincing' can many times be very subjective.
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