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Old 28th October 2009, 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by LifeToTheFullest! View Post
Nope. Not true.

Just because you fail to understand the "documented evidence" for 'macroevolution' doesn't mean others can't.

BTW, there is no distinction between micro/macroevolution. Stop spreading falsehoods (aka PRATTs).
Originally Posted by Thistlethorn View Post
You have to want them to be different for you to tell them apart, and then you're just fooling yourself.
Just for the record, guys, real scientists DO use the terms Microevolution and Macroevolution. They are perverted by Professional Creationists, but they are real terms.
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Old 28th October 2009, 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Split Rock View Post
Are you claiming that we do not walk around with mutations?
"Mutation" is science's word for it.

"Mutation" to me, is what Thalidomide did, or Chernobyl, or Hiroshima.

"Mutation" to me, is something that went wrong --- not the product of natural processes.

I have trouble with TEs believing we are mutant copy-errors, made in God's image.

The language is all wrong, and is indicative of higher academia's anti-Biblical indoctrinations.

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Old 28th October 2009, 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by AV1611VET View Post
"Mutation" is science's word for it.

"Mutation" to me, is what Thalidomide did, or Chernobyl, or Hiroshima.

"Mutation" to me, is something that went wrong --- not the product of natural processes.

I have trouble with TEs believing we are mutant copy-errors, made in God's image.

The language is all wrong, and is indicative of higher academia's anti-Biblical indoctrinations.

/soapbox
LOL! The use of the word mutation is "indicative of higher academia's anti-Biblical indoctrinations??" What?! I guess if you can justify creationism, you can justify just about any conclusion from any information, huh? This just reinforces my own accessment that you and other creationists are not capable of interpreting scripture or anything else correctly, regardless of how many years you have studied it.
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Originally Posted by Split Rock View Post
Just for the record, guys, real scientists DO use the terms Microevolution and Macroevolution. They are perverted by Professional Creationists, but they are real terms.
Yes, but only to describe the same process on different levels.
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Old 28th October 2009, 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Thistlethorn View Post
Yes, but only to describe the same process on different levels.
Isn't that what I just said?
Originally Posted by AV1611VET View Post
You can remove the prefixes that clarify which end of the process you're talking about...
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Old 28th October 2009, 11:15 PM
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Originally Posted by AV1611VET View Post
Isn't that what I just said?
True, but it's still the same process. To say one exists and the other doesn't shows a lack of understanding of the fundamental concept of it being the same things on different levels.
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Originally Posted by AV1611VET View Post
"Mutation" is science's word for it.

"Mutation" to me, is what Thalidomide did, or Chernobyl, or Hiroshima.

"Mutation" to me, is something that went wrong --- not the product of natural processes.

I have trouble with TEs believing we are mutant copy-errors, made in God's image.

The language is all wrong, and is indicative of higher academia's anti-Biblical indoctrinations.

/soapbox
So what you're saying is that you insist on using words in your own particular way, and then holding us responsible for the resulting conclusions even when you know the actual definition?

There's a formal name for that. It's called an equivocation fallacy. Doing it on purpose after people have corrected your word usage is called lying. Your post shows both 1: that you know the real definition and 2: that you refuse to use it. I believe there is sufficient evidence to call you a liar.

I wonder if the bible you hold in such high regard has anything to say about that.
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So what you're (AV1611VET) saying is that you insist on using words in your own particular way, and then holding us responsible for the resulting conclusions even when you know the actual definition?

There's a formal name for that. It's called an equivocation fallacy. Doing it on purpose after people have corrected your word usage is called lying. Your post shows both 1: that you know the real definition and 2: that you refuse to use it. I believe there is sufficient evidence to call you a liar.

I wonder if the bible you hold in such high regard has anything to say about that.
Let's be as kind as possible. AV1611VET isn't exactly lying. He has Humpty Dumpty syndrome. He redefines words at his own convenience and he is irreparably cracked.

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Originally Posted by sbvera13 View Post
I believe there is sufficient evidence to call you a liar.
Go right ahead, but I corrected ThistleThorn, and so did Split Rock.

And if you disagree that micro/macro evolution are PRATTs, feel free to speak up as well.
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Originally Posted by Gracchus View Post
Let's be as kind as possible. AV1611VET isn't exactly lying. He has Humpty Dumpty syndrome. He redefines words at his own convenience and he is irreparably cracked.

Let'em call me a liar --- Jesus was called a deceiver in His time.

I've said this before, and I'll say it again: they have no idea what a real lie is.

That's why they can't tell a martyr from a suicide bomber.
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