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26th October 2009, 10:10 AM
| | Newbie 33  | | Join Date: 3rd October 2009 Location: northern ireland belfast
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26th October 2009, 10:26 AM
|  | one man free

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Reps: 397,862,931,406,143 (power: 397,862,931,409) | | | I think that children that are born into this world are a product of the 'fall', sin has entered into the world. The new studies that have opened up dna has shown that there are genetic markers that predispose certain defects. But with that being said I believe that God can redeem even those that are deformed, for the bible says that Jesus died for the sins of the world, which includes all who are born of women. Those that have not the ability to reason are protected as children before the age of accountability. | 
26th October 2009, 05:52 PM
|  | Fisherman 47  | | Join Date: 22nd September 2009 Location: Alabama
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27th October 2009, 08:39 PM
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Reps: 449,146,267,979,360,896 (power: 449,146,267,979,370) | | | Both. God allows this defective genetic child to be born. For example, I have a younger brother that I have grown up with-he is only two years younger than me. He has brought my family closer together. God allowed this for good. He has down sydrome and these people are like adult angels-they love everyone and hug everyone. It has helped my family. These particular individuals will already go to heaven because they don't know what sin is in most cases-my brother doesn't. They have to understand abstract ideas first.
__________________ -Joh 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. -Abortion - 45 million dead babies and growing **Proverbs 6:16-17 - states that there are seven things that are an abomination to the Lord; one of them is the shedding of innocent blood. Science without religion is lame. Religion without science is blind, Albert Einstein. Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God, Benjamin Franklin | 
31st October 2009, 06:50 AM
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Reps: 294,965,212,214,612,864 (power: 294,965,212,214,623) | | Originally Posted by new christian man hello every 1 i,ve been wondering lately about babys being born disable,ed and so on do u think its gods work or genes n stuff
It's all in the genes. We blame God for too much.
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31st October 2009, 07:26 AM
|  | Ave Maria Gratia Plena 29  | | Join Date: 31st May 2004 Location: United States
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Reps: 233,147,813,510,988,768 (power: 233,147,813,511,065) | | | It is a result of the fall of mankind. Disease and disorder came about when Adam and Eve ate the forbidden fruit and this curse has been passed on to all mankind. | 
1st November 2009, 12:30 AM
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Reps: 38,221,363,904,330 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by new christian man hello every 1 i,ve been wondering lately about babys being born disable,ed and so on do u think its gods work or genes n stuff
God is always fair, and people who have pain in the beginning will get comfort for much longer afterwards in the next life.
Pain and challenges come in many forms, sometimes with physical disabilities. | 
1st November 2009, 02:07 AM
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| | Join Date: 8th October 2009 Location: Matthews, NC
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Reps: 2,417,164,941,675 (power: 2,417,164,944) | | | Hello my brother, When God created man he created us in His image. We were perfect human beings in every way, however when Adam and Eve committed sin, in the Garden of Eden, that changed the course of our humanity drastically. Romans 5:12 "Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned." The results of that sin caused the alteration of God's original creative design, from man tilling the ground to provide for himself, thorns and thistles growing on the earth to the hardships of labor in childbirth for women. What happens from the moment we are conceived to the day of our death is the result of living in a fallen world as a result of sin. It was through the redemptive blood of Jesus Christ that all things will be made whole again. Because He lives one day the reverse of that fall will take place. Rev 21:3-7 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God. And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away. And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.
And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Ome'ga, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely.
He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son." Amen | 
1st November 2009, 02:43 AM
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| | Join Date: 8th October 2009 Location: Matthews, NC
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Reps: 2,417,164,941,675 (power: 2,417,164,944) | | Originally Posted by wayseer It's all in the genes. We blame God for too much. You are partly right and partly wrong. No one is blaming God for anything. The fall of man was the result of man's disobedience to God. The seed that was produced from man's disobedience was sin. Sin brought about death for all mankind and because of this The Son of God came into this world to die for our sins to redeem mankind back to God. You are partly right when you say that it is all in the genes. We are born into sin and as a result of that, the process of life that is created through reproduction is subject to effects of sin which includes many kinds of diseases. |  | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode | | | |