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If someone says they are a Christian, I never assume otherwise.
I learned that style of debating from Bob Larson, who treated every caller that claimed he was a Christian as if he were a Christian.
The thing I don't do, is when someone claims to be a former Christian, treat them as if they are not saved.
I believe in the doctrine of Eternal Security, so even if someone like Thaumaturgy claims he was once saved, but now isn't, I will treat him as if he is my brother-in-Christ.
AV meet AV. i think you two will have a lot to talk about
Originally Posted by Wedjat
Correction, you creationists. Not all Christians share your mindset AV.
If someone says they are a Christian, I never assume otherwise.
I learned that style of debating from Bob Larson, who treated every caller that claimed he was a Christian as if he were a Christian.
The thing I don't do, is when someone claims to be a former Christian, treat them as if they are not saved.
I believe in the doctrine of Eternal Security, so even if someone like Thaumaturgy claims he was once saved, but now isn't, I will treat him as if he is my brother-in-Christ.
Then what was "I'd like to meet one" supposed to mean when you have clearly come in contact with many people who claim to be Christian without believing in the literal interpretation of Genesis?
__________________ "When work seems overwhelming, remember that you are going to die" Strangely enough this motivates me.
We don't have a Timeline for the Angels, so that question can't be answered.
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Spoiler for Some Good Rules for Christians:
Luke 10:27 (Love God Above All, And Your Neighbor as yourself) And he answering said, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbour as thyself.
Matthew 7:12 (Do unto others)
Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.
Matthew 5:43-48 (Pray for those that persecute you)
Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.
But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust. For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same? And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so? Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.
Luke 6:27-29 (Love your enemies.)
But I say unto you which hear, Love your enemies, do good to them which hate you, Bless them that curse you, and pray for them which despitefully use you. And unto him that smiteth thee on the one cheek offer also the other; and him that taketh away thy cloak forbid not to take thy coat also.
Originally Posted by Saint Augustine
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If they find a Christian mistaken in a field which they themselves know well and hear him maintaining his foolish opinions about our books, how are they going to believe those books in matters concerning the resurrection of the dead, the hope of eternal life, and the kingdom of heaven, when they think their pages are full of falsehoods on facts which they themselves have learnt from experience and the light of reason? Reckless and incompetent expounders of holy Scripture bring untold trouble and sorrow on their wiser brethren when they are caught in one of their mischievous false opinions and are taken to task by those who are not bound by the authority of our sacred books.
Isaiah 8:12-13 (NIV) "Do not call conspiracy everything that these people call conspiracy; do not fear what they fear, and do not dread it. The Lord Almighty is the one you are to regard as holy, he is the one you are to fear, he is the one you are to dread."
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