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.The world will have a different opinion when they see him perform an act that you guys say you can't even explain: abiogenesis.
AV, I did my senior research paper on abiogenesis. It's not completely there, true, it's not 100% worked out. But we are so close, you wouldn't believe (actually I seriously doubt that you would). We might not be able to explain it exactly, but right now we have a pretty good idea.
It will be a strong enough theory to be taught in schools right along side evolution before the end of your life, of this I am confident.
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It will be a strong enough theory to be taught in schools right along side evolution before the end of your life, of this I am confident.
Well, I hope that you're just as confident that we Christians will be right there saying that abiogenesis, as it applies to initial life in the universe, didn't occur.
Well, I hope that you're just as confident that we Christians will be right there saying that abiogenesis, as it applies to initial life in the universe, didn't occur.
Correction, you creationists. Not all Christians share your mindset AV.
And yes, clearly you will.
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I believe you've already made laconicstudent's and theladykate's acquaintance.
And be careful where you tread AV. Claiming someone is not christian who identifies as one is against forum rules.
As I'm fond of saying:
Genesis 1 pwns evolution.
Genesis 1:1 pwns atheism.
Genesis 1:1a pwns abiogenesis.
Mmmhmm, ok AV, you keep on saying that.
__________________ "When work seems overwhelming, remember that you are going to die" Strangely enough this motivates me.
Correction, you creationists. Not all Christians share your mindset AV.
And yes, clearly you will.
I'd like to meet one.
I have a very good question for him.
As I'm fond of saying:
Genesis 1 pwns evolution.
Genesis 1:1 pwns atheism.
Genesis 1:1a pwns abiogenesis.
Hello AV, nice to meet you.
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Spoiler for Some Good Rules for Christians:
Luke 10:27 (Love God Above All, And Your Neighbor as yourself) And he answering said, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbour as thyself.
Matthew 7:12 (Do unto others)
Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.
Matthew 5:43-48 (Pray for those that persecute you)
Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.
But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust. For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same? And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so? Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.
Luke 6:27-29 (Love your enemies.)
But I say unto you which hear, Love your enemies, do good to them which hate you, Bless them that curse you, and pray for them which despitefully use you. And unto him that smiteth thee on the one cheek offer also the other; and him that taketh away thy cloak forbid not to take thy coat also.
Originally Posted by Saint Augustine
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If they find a Christian mistaken in a field which they themselves know well and hear him maintaining his foolish opinions about our books, how are they going to believe those books in matters concerning the resurrection of the dead, the hope of eternal life, and the kingdom of heaven, when they think their pages are full of falsehoods on facts which they themselves have learnt from experience and the light of reason? Reckless and incompetent expounders of holy Scripture bring untold trouble and sorrow on their wiser brethren when they are caught in one of their mischievous false opinions and are taken to task by those who are not bound by the authority of our sacred books.
Isaiah 8:12-13 (NIV) "Do not call conspiracy everything that these people call conspiracy; do not fear what they fear, and do not dread it. The Lord Almighty is the one you are to regard as holy, he is the one you are to fear, he is the one you are to dread."
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And be careful where you tread AV. Claiming someone is not christian who identifies as one is against forum rules.
If someone says they are a Christian, I never assume otherwise.
I learned that style of debating from Bob Larson, who treated every caller that claimed he was a Christian as if he were a Christian.
The thing I don't do, is when someone claims to be a former Christian, treat them as if they are not saved.
I believe in the doctrine of Eternal Security, so even if someone like Thaumaturgy claims he was once saved, but now isn't, I will treat him as if he is my brother-in-Christ.
You're fond of saying a lot of things. Usually that have nothing to do with the thread topic.
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