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A lawyer is not ethically bound to determine truth or work for justice. A lawyer is ethically bound to present the best case for his client.
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No, not all.
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(Yes I know you didn't say ALL are, just pointing out that not all are)
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Isaiah 8:12-13 (NIV) "Do not call conspiracy everything that these people call conspiracy; do not fear what they fear, and do not dread it. The Lord Almighty is the one you are to regard as holy, he is the one you are to fear, he is the one you are to dread."
No, not all.
EDIT:
(Yes I know you didn't say ALL are, just pointing out that not all are)
One could say that the best lawyers are the best liars.
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Reading some posts in the Creation-only forum, I stumbled across a couple posts in this thread (posts 18 and 19):
What I find particular odd about these comments is that if you look at court cases ever since the Scopes trial, creationism and ID hasn't exactly fared very well. In fact, real science has pretty much dominated the legal arena any time its faced with a challenge.
I just find it really odd when people with expertise completely outside the scientific arena act like they're more qualified to judge science than people with expertise within the scientific arena.
That is quite interesting. I get to spend some time dealing with lawyers in my work in science. I am involved part of my day in intellectual property. So as a scientist it is an interesting chasm between science and law.
What is most interesting about the two quotes you posted is:
1. That any lawyer who thinks that science and law utilize some different ways to assess evidence is relatively uneducated in science. All you need do is look at an inferential statistics book to see that.
2. Any lawyer who thinks that science can only be defined by experiments that are repeated in the lab should quit his job or he'll never be able to hire a forensic expert in any field!
I am amazed how differently science and law approach the same points, but in the end they really do have much more in common than not.
What I find particular odd about these comments is that if you look at court cases ever since the Scopes trial, creationism and ID hasn't exactly fared very well.
This dispensation is slated to descend even further, according to Timothy.
So much so, in fact, that when Jesus returns, He will ask:
Originally Posted by Luke 18:8
Nevertheless when the Son of man cometh, shall he find faith on the earth?
I used to wonder what people would leave Christian basic doctrine for.
Now I have no question as what they will go to: science.
It is science that is going to [supposedly] win, only to get a wake-up call at the last minute.
Originally Posted by Pete Harcoff
In fact, real science has pretty much dominated the legal arena any time its faced with a challenge.
That's as it should be --- but it's not going to catch God by surprise.
He has already made provision for it, with many science-defying acts waiting in the wings.
Originally Posted by Pete Harcoff
I just find it really odd when people with expertise completely outside the scientific arena act like they're more qualified to judge science than people with expertise within the scientific arena.
So much so, in fact, that when Jesus returns, He will ask:I used to wonder what people would leave Christian basic doctrine for.
Now I have no question as what they will go to: science.
It is science that is going to [supposedly] win, only to get a wake-up call at the last minute.That's as it should be --- but it's not going to catch God by surprise.
He has already made provision for it, with many science-defying acts waiting in the wings.
So, is The Beast going to be a Scientist? I mean, we all work for him anyway.
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Why do some people persist in the bizarre belief that science in any way attacks God?
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