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Old 26th October 2009, 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by LittleNipper View Post
It changed the meaning of marriage beyond a husband and his wife for purposes excluding procreation.
When has that ever been the purpose of marriage?
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Old 26th October 2009, 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Wiccan_Child View Post
When has that ever been the purpose of marriage?
I'm pretty sure that is what marriage is for in the Novel 1984! Oh and women who thnik of sex as a duty, but not a pleasure.

Looks like LN got things backwards once again.
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yah, deffinitions change...
Either demonstrate a compelling societal harm or move to a christian theocracy.
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Old 26th October 2009, 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by keith99 View Post
Oh and women who thnik of sex as a duty, but not a pleasure.
You mean the "Close your eyes and think of England" Victorian matrons?
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Old 26th October 2009, 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by OllieFranz View Post
You mean the "Close your eyes and think of England" Victorian matrons?
Hey, that's my line!

"Lay back, and think of England!"
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Old 26th October 2009, 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by LittleNipper View Post
It changed the meaning of marriage beyond a husband and his wife for purposes excluding procreation.
Marriage laws that allow for same-sex marriage do not change the meaning of the word 'marriage'; they reflect a change in that society's view of marriage. The meaning is descriptive, not prescriptive.
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Originally Posted by Autumnleaf View Post
Someone told me gay marriage is one of the ways the government is bending societal norms by messing with basic language. Sort of like how the military is said to 'pacify' and area by killing everyone in it. Calling marriage between men the same as between a man and a woman changes the meaning of marriage.
Nope, not true at all.
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The governmental control of relationships, privileging certain types of monogamous relationships into official "marriages" is a worrying redefinition of terms. Some relationships deserve tax breaks and various other rights; others don't.

I'm not sure how sexual orientation affects that...
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Old 1st November 2009, 08:23 PM
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The governmental control of relationships, privileging certain types of monogamous relationships into official "marriages" is a worrying redefinition of terms. Some relationships deserve tax breaks and various other rights; others don't.
Not married, are ya?

The truth is that it isn't a terrible idea to grant marriages and families tax incentives because having stable families does tend to have a positive effect on society in general so I don't mind encouraging that.

I do mind not granting those rights to specific groups of people.
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Originally Posted by Autumnleaf View Post
Someone told me gay marriage is one of the ways the government is bending societal norms by messing with basic language. Sort of like how the military is said to 'pacify' and area by killing everyone in it. Calling marriage between men the same as between a man and a woman changes the meaning of marriage.
The definition of marriage has been changed MANY times before this, society still stands
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