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25th October 2009, 05:33 PM
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Hey,
I'm finishing my degree from Bob Jones with a BA in Bible. I'm looking at trying to find an online seminary that is good. Liberty has some awesome looking online programs, that require no-residency, etc... however they're moving toward a conservative, Southern Baptist flair... (though they're supposed to be independent, Fundamental Baptist
I've talked around to some professors on campus and thus far it's been ill feelings towards Liberty. Would I be wrong in obtaining an M.Div. from them? If Biblical Separation as taught by Bob Jones is true, would I be in disobedience? I'm not so certain on the separation issue yet... not just with the possibility of Liberty, but of separation in general... |
27th October 2009, 02:17 PM
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Reps: 30,067,699,875,953,608 (power: 30,067,699,875,963) | | Originally Posted by Bob Jones Student  Hey,
I'm finishing my degree from Bob Jones with a BA in Bible. I'm looking at trying to find an online seminary that is good. Liberty has some awesome looking online programs, that require no-residency, etc... however they're moving toward a conservative, Southern Baptist flair... (though they're supposed to be independent, Fundamental Baptist
I've talked around to some professors on campus and thus far it's been ill feelings towards Liberty. Would I be wrong in obtaining an M.Div. from them? If Biblical Separation as taught by Bob Jones is true, would I be in disobedience? I'm not so certain on the separation issue yet... not just with the possibility of Liberty, but of separation in general...
Hmm, interesting. That's the first I'd heard of this. But as I'm neither a Baptist nor much of a believer in separation, I'll pass on answering.
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27th October 2009, 04:44 PM
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Reps: 3,394,007,686,969,080 (power: 3,394,007,686,977) | | | Liberty is a fairly conservative, syncretistic Baptist school -- meaning they espouse both eternal security and free will. A number of our Pastors have come from there. Given my strong Calvinist commitments I chose to study elsewhere, but -- since you come from Bob Jones -- you'd probably find it a meaningful experience.
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31st October 2009, 10:54 AM
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Sometimes it's helpful to study a conflicting view. It's the old one sounds correct until the other presents his case.
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31st October 2009, 06:23 PM
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8th December 2009, 06:57 PM
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10th December 2009, 01:29 AM
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Reps: 9,466,803,496,055 (power: 9,466,803,499) | | | There are many online seminary programs to choose from. Liberty Seminary's president is Ergun Caner. How he became a seminary president is beyond my understanding. I suggest you look him up on youtube. That's all I will say about that.
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10th December 2009, 01:43 AM
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Reps: 215,676,647,067,965,440 (power: 215,676,647,067,988) | | Originally Posted by BigNorsk Pots call kettles black all the time.
Sometimes it's helpful to study a conflicting view. It's the old one sounds correct until the other presents his case.
I am attending Nazarene Bible College. All my classes are online but I am working on a BA in Pastoral Ministries. It certainly has been interesting having more calvinist tendencies and attending an arminian/wesleyan school. For the most part I have enjoyed good discussions that forced the participants to dig into the word and examine our own beliefs while being exposed to well though out opposing arguments. There has only been a couple of outright conflicts, but even those can challenge us and help us grow.
Remember there are no perfect churches and there are no perfect schools.
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30th December 2009, 01:36 AM
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Reps: 195,034,794,724,857,984 (power: 195,034,794,724,860) | | Originally Posted by Bob Jones Student Hey,
I'm finishing my degree from Bob Jones with a BA in Bible. I'm looking at trying to find an online seminary that is good. Liberty has some awesome looking online programs, that require no-residency, etc... however they're moving toward a conservative, Southern Baptist flair... (though they're supposed to be independent, Fundamental Baptist
I've talked around to some professors on campus and thus far it's been ill feelings towards Liberty. Would I be wrong in obtaining an M.Div. from them? If Biblical Separation as taught by Bob Jones is true, would I be in disobedience? I'm not so certain on the separation issue yet... not just with the possibility of Liberty, but of separation in general...
No offense, but I looked at BJU, and IMO they have swayed away from being fundamental..
However Liberty IMO isnt really a christian seminary anymore, but too close to a regular college..
Seminaries?
I would recommend
Dallas Theological Seminary
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Reps: 98,465,370,590,454 (power: 98,465,370,595) | | Originally Posted by Bob Jones Student Hey,
I'm finishing my degree from Bob Jones with a BA in Bible. I'm looking at trying to find an online seminary that is good. Liberty has some awesome looking online programs, that require no-residency, etc... however they're moving toward a conservative, Southern Baptist flair... (though they're supposed to be independent, Fundamental Baptist
I've talked around to some professors on campus and thus far it's been ill feelings towards Liberty. Would I be wrong in obtaining an M.Div. from them? If Biblical Separation as taught by Bob Jones is true, would I be in disobedience? I'm not so certain on the separation issue yet... not just with the possibility of Liberty, but of separation in general...
If you are ok with attending a school that was founded by a person who accepted evangelistic campaign contributions from the Ku Klux Klan and believed in racial segregation why would you be worried about attending a school that may not fit into the BJU "Biblical Separation order"? | | |
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