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Old 25th October 2009, 02:15 PM
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Baptists 400 year birthday?

Our church "celebrated" this today...anyone else's church doing the same?
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Old 25th October 2009, 03:32 PM
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I'm afraid that Baptists go back to John the Baptist, the first Baptist evangelist. John Smyth, who got saved in a Baptist church in Holland, started a Baptist church in England and named it "Baptist," but he did not invent the doctrines.
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Old 26th October 2009, 12:26 AM
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I don't know anyone in our church that would say the Baptist group started 400 years ago.
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Originally Posted by Vince53 View Post
I'm afraid that Baptists go back to John the Baptist, the first Baptist evangelist. John Smyth, who got saved in a Baptist church in Holland, started a Baptist church in England and named it "Baptist," but he did not invent the doctrines.
Actually baptism predates John and is an outward sign of an inward condition, namely repentance.

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For those of us who don't buy into the Landmarkist kool-aid, we would say that this year does mark the 400th anniversary of the first Baptist church.

Anabaptist does not equal Baptist. Influence does not equal lineage.

Baptists are from the line of the English Separatists.
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Originally Posted by sealacamp View Post
Actually baptism predates John and is an outward sign of an inward condition, namely repentance.

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Originally Posted by JacobHall86 View Post
For those of us who don't buy into the Landmarkist kool-aid, we would say that this year does mark the 400th anniversary of the first Baptist church.

Anabaptist does not equal Baptist. Influence does not equal lineage.

Baptists are from the line of the English Separatists.
Actually the spiritual kinship view, which I hold, is different than the chain-link view held by Landmarkists and the Trail of Blood. I used to have a link to the three views of Baptist history but I lost it when I had to reformat my hard drive.
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Originally Posted by 98cwitr View Post
Our church "celebrated" this today...anyone else's church doing the same?
From my perspective, the first Baptist church was organized in England late in 1611 or early in 1612 when about ten souls lead by Thomas Helwys returned from Holland where they had been for a few years due to the persecution of the Separatists by the Church of England. This first congregation was Arminian in its theology. The first Calvinistic Baptist church was organized in about 1638 under the pastorate of Henry Jessey, a Cambridge graduate, their antecedents being the nearly Baptist congregation organized in 1616 in London under the leadership of Henry Jacob.

The only birthday that my church celebrates is the birthday of our Lord and Savior, Christ Jesus.
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Tiverton Baptist Church (Devon, England), my home church, celebrated their 400th anniversary two years ago. Officially, the church was founded in 1607. But it is not possible to know for certain the actual start date, but most probably sometime around the turn of the 16th/17th centuries.
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Tiverton Baptist Church (Devon, England), my home church, celebrated their 400th anniversary two years ago. Officially, the church was founded in 1607. But it is not possible to know for certain the actual start date, but most probably sometime around the turn of the 16th/17th centuries.
Thank you for sharing with us! I would be very interested in learning the early history of your church, especially the early names of it and the beliefs that it taught.
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