You may struggle with sin. Ask for forgiveness and recommit that sin in a vicious circle for the rest of your life. As long as you're sincere in your repentance and effort, God is on your side. He knows what's in your heart, and it's not the unforgivable sin.
If your son were doing bad things, and you knew his heart was really trying to change, would you give up on him? Or hang in there with him?
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__________________ Galatians 5:14 For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself.
Seems pretty clear to me.
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Last edited by JusSumguy; 2nd November 2009 at 12:26 AM.
Just for the record, all of our sins are willful and purposefully. Also read Romans 7. Paul struggled with doing what he knew he shouldn't do, and not doing what he should. He called himself a wretched man. But he then transitions to 8:1, my life verse. "There is therefore now no condemnation for those who are Christ Jesus."
Focus on the cross, on the Gospel, and let the same grace that saved you also transform you.
My dear Christian readers,
I have studied Romans chapter 7 in literally hundreds of commentaries on Romans (I have over 230 of them in my home library), including whole volumes devoted exclusively to Romans chapter 7, and very many papers upon that chapter, and it never ceases to amaze how very many writers have made a shipwreck of their hermeneutics when studying and teaching that chapter.
In the fifth chapter of Romans Paul wrote,
Rom. 5:20. The Law came in so that the transgression would increase; but where sin increased, grace abounded all the more,
This verse gives rise to a question that is asked in the sixth chapter of Romans,
Rom. 6:1. What shall we say then? Are we to continue in sin so that grace may increase?
The rest of the sixth chapter of Romans is Paul’s answer to that question, and the answer continues through the first 6 verses of chapter 7,
Rom. 7:1. Or do you not know, brethren (for I am speaking to those who know the law), that the law has jurisdiction over a person as long as he lives? 2. For the married woman is bound by law to her husband while he is living; but if her husband dies, she is released from the law concerning the husband. 3. So then, if while her husband is living she is joined to another man, she shall be called an adulteress; but if her husband dies, she is free from the law, so that she is not an adulteress though she is joined to another man. 4. Therefore, my brethren, you also were made to die to the Law through the body of Christ, so that you might be joined to another, to Him who was raised from the dead, in order that we might bear fruit for God. 5. For while we were in the flesh, the sinful passions, which were aroused by the Law, were at work in the members of our body to bear fruit for death. 6. But now we have been released from the Law, having died to that by which we were bound, so that we serve in newness of the Spirit and not in oldness of the letter.
Notice that Paul wrote in verse 4 that we were made to die to the Law (the covenant of Law found in the Old Testament). This verse gives rise to two new questions that are asked in the following verse,
Rom. 7:7. What shall we say then? Is the Law sin?
The rest of verse 7 through verse 12 answers that question but gives rise to another question,
Rom. 7:13a. Therefore did that which is good become a causeof death for me?
The rest of verse 13 answers that question by saying,
Rom. 7:13b. May it never be! Rather it was sin, in order that it might be shown to be sin by effecting my death through that which is good, so that through the commandment sin would become utterly sinful.
In Rom. 7:14-25, Paul elaborates upon that answer. The real cause of death is not the Law; it is sin, but death is effected through the Law. Paul explains this through an illustration using the Greek rhetorical first person singular in which a Jew who loves the Law attempts to keep it but finds that he is not able to do so because he is made of natural flesh and the Law is spiritual. That is why a man must die to the Law as taught in Romans 6 and be born again.
In Rom. 8:1-4 Paul summarizes what he has been writing,
Rom. 8:1. Therefore there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus. 2. For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has set you free from the law of sin and of death. 3. For what the Law could not do, weak as it was through the flesh, God did: sending His own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and as an offering for sin, He condemned sin in the flesh, 4. so that the requirement of the Law might be fulfilled in us, who do not walk according to the flesh but according to the Spirit.
Many people, including some very well educated people, have read into Romans 7 their own condition and imagined that Paul was writing about his experience in that condition, but we know from other things that Paul wrote that his condition was never like that,
Rom. 5:8. But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.
1 Cor. 4:1. Let a man regard us in this manner, as servants of Christ and stewards of the mysteries of God. 2. In this case, moreover, it is required of stewards that one be found trustworthy. 3. But to me it is a very small thing that I may be examined by you, or by any human court; in fact, I do not even examine myself. 4. For I am conscious of nothing against myself, yet I am not by this acquitted; but the one who examines me is the Lord. 5. Therefore do not go on passing judgment before the time, but wait until the Lord comes who will both bring to light the things hidden in the darkness and disclose the motives of men's hearts; and then each man's praise will come to him from God.
Phil. 3:6. as to zeal, a persecutor of the church; as to the righteousness which is in the Law, found blameless.
Phil. 4:9. The things you have learned and received and heard and seen in me, practice these things, and the God of peace will be with you.
The key to the correct understanding of Romans 7:14-25 is that the man being described is striving to keep the Law but failing to do so. Christians have died to the Law and therefore do not strive to keep it.
Christians have NOT been “sold into bondage to sin” as was the Jew in Romans 7, we have been redeemed by the precious blood of Christ.
1 Pet. 1:17. If you address as Father the One who impartially judges according to each one's work, conduct yourselves in fear during the time of your stay on earth; 18. knowing that you were not redeemed with perishable things like silver or gold from your futile way of life inherited from your forefathers, 19. but with precious blood, as of a lamb unblemished and spotless, the blood of Christ.
(All quotations from Scripture are from the NASB, 1995, with my occasional emphasis using underlined type.)
The language and Biblical scholar Adam Clarke wrote on this passage from Romans 7,
It is difficult to conceive how the opinion could have crept into the Church, or prevailed there, that “the apostle speaks here of his regenerate state; and that what was, in such a state, true of himself, must be true of all others in the same state.” This opinion has, most pitifully and most shamefully, not only lowered the standard of Christianity, but destroyed its influence and disgraced its character. It requires but little knowledge of the spirit of the Gospel, and of the scope of this epistle, to see that the apostle is, here, either personating a Jew under the law and without the Gospel, or showing what his own state was when he was deeply convinced that by the deeds of the law no man could be justified, and had not as yet heard those blessed words: Brother Saul, the Lord Jesus, that appeared unto thee in the way, hath sent me that thou mightest receive thy sight, and be filled with the Holy Ghost, Act 9:17.
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If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left, but only a fearful expectation of judgment... Hebrews 10:26-27
I am saved, and I sinned deliberately because I was weak and enticed by my own desires... does this mean that I am going to hell?
I am new to christianity sorry.
Nope, that's not what it means. I just read a chapter in Charles Stanley's book, "Eternal Security: Can you be sure?" and it was about this verse. Basically what it means is that there is no sacrifice for sins left because the sacrifice has already been made. Think about this: The context does not indicate a sinful lifestyle. It says if we deliberately keep on sinning, this means that one deliberate sin could send you to Hell if the interpretation made by those who don't believe in eternal security is correct. However, we all know that one deliberate sin will not send us to Hell. That's about the best way that I know how to explain it. That said, I highly recommend Charles Stanley's book.
If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left, but only a fearful expectation of judgment... Hebrews 10:26-27
I am saved, and I sinned deliberately because I was weak and enticed by my own desires... does this mean that I am going to hell?
I am new to christianity sorry.
Unless Christ died on the cross in vain, all current and future sin is absolved, (for believers).
__________________ For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this: “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.” Galations 5:14
Just for the record, all of our sins are willful and purposefully.
I agree!!
The word "struggle" comes up when talking about sins. Like I "struggle" with pornography, but what does "struggle" mean? If I fall, its because I choose to give in to it. I become tired of struggling and making an effort, and so I decide that I'm not going to try to be pure any more -- that's a choice I make.
Why can't people please God by their own power? Because everyone will eventually commit the sin of choosing not to care about their particular struggle any more.
Not caring means that your repentance can't be pure, and your efforts aren't there at all.
It is for caring that we reach these goals. We repent because we care. We try because we care. We care for the Lord. We care for our soul. We care for our comfort. We care for others.
Without caring, how would we know what the goal is? It would seem to me that caring is the gun sight of our repentance and efforts. Through caring, we get our direction.
I have no idea what's in your soul. Nor am I the judge of it. But, speaking from a completely generic point of view, I would think that repentance without caring, would be rejected by Jesus. Making this an unforgiven sin. As opposed to unforgivable.
More like shooting oneself in the foot, if you ask me.
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__________________ Galatians 5:14 For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself.
Not caring means that your repentance can't be pure, and your efforts aren't there at all.
It is for caring that we reach these goals. We repent because we care. We try because we care. We care for the Lord. We care for our soul. We care for our comfort. We care for others.
Without caring, how would we know what the goal is? It would seem to me that caring is the gun sight of our repentance and efforts. Through caring, we get our direction.
I have no idea what's in your soul. Nor am I the judge of it. But, speaking from a completely generic point of view, I would think that repentance without caring, would be rejected by Jesus. Making this an unforgiven sin. As opposed to unforgivable.
More like shooting oneself in the foot, if you ask me.
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I used to try not to sin, now I just go right ahead; I don't care.
My effort never yielded any results anyway.
When I cared, I'd feel terrible about myself all the time. By not caring, I don't feel so bad about myself.
For me, there is no "struggle." Life is hard enough. I'm not going to struggle against something that I'm never going to have victory over, it just makes life even harder.
I'm not a perfectionist, being a perfectionist is unhealthy.
Also it is not good to be too hard on yourself. Therefore, it is good not to care about sinning, since I will just do it any way.
I can't not sin, I have no power over it! So I see no point in making an effort in areas that have proved impossible to master in the past.
If God puts me in Hell, that's okay with me because his judgments are perfect.
Last edited by Lemmiwinks; 3rd November 2009 at 05:11 PM.
Lemmiwinks!!! Because You have Given Up caring about Your own sins does this mean that You don't care about any ones Sins and How they May affect You in some way not to even mention of how it hurts God??? You Need to get it together, I have heard You post before but You are continually becoming more and more blatant and uncaring . What has happened in Your life to cause You to be so indifferant??? We are here for You Brother ... God bless You...Dave
Lets say you had the same attitude about money as you do sin.
You don't care about money any longer...you never get to keep any of it anyway...it all comes in as earnings from your job and it all goes out every month...none of it ever seems to make it into savings or purchase you the things that you really want.
So why bother trying to earn it?
All of it is going to be gone anyway so why bother? You can't seem to save any...there is always something that takes what little you manage to successfully save...You always feel guilty about not saving...all that self imposed guilt isn't good...So you are going to be happier by not earning any more money.
It isn't apples and oranges this comparison between sin and money.
God is your creator...He owns you. Your proper recognition of that fact is partially what brings peace between God and you.
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