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Old 2nd November 2009, 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by thersites View Post
Obesity is the result of lack of restraint of a normal bodily function. Homosexuality is quite the opposite.

You do make a good point about how we as Christians are very selective and hypocritical in the sins we choose to condemn.
The only ones who are selective are those who choose to see their Bible as a thumping mechanism rather than a tool in their own life and in the lives of others, these are far from the majority.
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"Offense" is something TAKEN. No one MAKES anyone feel anything. IF we are offended by something, we CHOSE to be offended by it...

But I think that OFTEN, people confuse discussion with fighting. Disagreeing is not personal, it is not an attack, it is not disrespectful or flaming, it is not offensive per se. It ONLY means, "I disagree." Nothing more. Nothing less. It suggests NO emotional response whatsoever.

NO ONE is mandated to agree with anyone.

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Old 2nd November 2009, 05:02 PM
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one is a sin agaist his body.......
the other is a sin against his spirit .....
apples and oranges....

both are choices, life styles, it is between you and God , what His book
says, and what you do....that which you reject will prosecute you and that you believe will defend you in the last days....

fat people, gossips, lazy, proud....are all in danger, along with gays, lesbians, transgendered, and bisexuals for the same reason...pride, arrogance, selfishness, and
an ignorance of God's will ....if unchecked, will defeat and destroy them ...
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Old 3rd November 2009, 01:54 AM
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Originally Posted by plmarquette View Post
both are choices, life styles
No, obesity (AIUI) isn't necessarily a choice (it can be the result of overeating, but not always), and homosexuality isn't (as far as I can tell) a choice. Neither are lifestyles in any meaningful sense.

fat people, gossips, lazy, proud....are all in danger, along with gays, lesbians, transgendered, and bisexuals for the same reason...pride, arrogance, selfishness, and an ignorance of God's will ....if unchecked, will defeat and destroy them ...
Well, I'm fat and bisexual, and neither of them are anything to do with pride, arrogance, selfishness, or ignorance of God's will. So your argument doesn't really work...

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Old 3rd November 2009, 11:55 AM
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Re: the title of this thread I was hoping this was a kind of WWF special on pay-per-view. Oh well.
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Originally Posted by Godschild87 View Post
They are both sins, so why should it be different? Because obese people may not be able to control what makes them obese. Homosexuals are perfectly capable of staying celibate, there is no drive that forces them to go out and have sex.
There is no drive? I believe it is called the sex drive for a reason. Humans are sexual creatures by design. It's the strongest urge they have. Not everyone is capable of being celibate. Paul pointed this out.
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There is no drive? I believe it is called the sex drive for a reason. Humans are sexual creatures by design. It's the strongest urge they have. Not everyone is capable of being celibate. Paul pointed this out.
Where did Paul point out that people are forced by their sex drives to have sex? Seriously, if people don't have a shred of self-control, then they're better off not having sex with anyone or being in any romantic relationship: it'd be purely physical. The sex drive does not, under healthy conditions, force anyone to have sex. If there is a problem to the point where they do feel such a compulsion, then they should see a counselor, as such compulsion is not healthy.
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"Offense" is something TAKEN. No one MAKES anyone feel anything. IF we are offended by something, we CHOSE to be offended by it...

But I think that OFTEN, people confuse discussion with fighting. Disagreeing is not personal, it is not an attack, it is not disrespectful or flaming, it is not offensive per se. It ONLY means, "I disagree." Nothing more. Nothing less. It suggests NO emotional response whatsoever.

NO ONE is mandated to agree with anyone.

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