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View Poll Results: The first European Union President should be: | |
Tony Blair (Labour), ex UK PM
|     | 6 | 46.15% | |
Felipe González (Socialist), ex PM of Spain
|    | 0 | 0% | |
Jean-Claude Juncker (Christian), PM of Luxembourg
|    | 1 | 7.69% | |
Wolfgang Schüssel (Christian Democrat), ex Chancellor of Austria
|    | 0 | 0% | |
Paavo Lipponen (Social Democrat), ex PM of Finland
|    | 1 | 7.69% | |
Herman Van Rompuy (Christian Democrat), PM of Belgium
|    | 0 | 0% | |
Jan Peter Balkenende (Christian Democrat), the Dutch PM
| | 1 | 7.69% | |
Martti Ahtisaari (independent), ex President of Finland
| | 1 | 7.69% | |
Mary Robinson (independent), ex President of Ireland
| | 1 | 7.69% | |
Other, who?
| | 2 | 15.38% |
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24th October 2009, 11:12 AM
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Reps: 62,043,746,070,178 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by Staccato  You vastly overestimate the influence of the populace on executive decision making. The President will be he who ensures the continuation of the trans-Atlantic relationship, secures a solid trade and security future with China and Russia and promotes the continuation of pro-business initiatives in a pan-European context.
So it'll probably be Blair.
And once again I will support the children in black as they roam around throwing bricks at things and setting bins on fire. |
24th October 2009, 02:48 PM
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Reps: 97,440,235,412 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by Staccato You vastly overestimate the influence of the populace on executive decision making. The President will be he who ensures the continuation of the trans-Atlantic relationship, secures a solid trade and security future with China and Russia and promotes the continuation of pro-business initiatives in a pan-European context.
So it'll probably be Blair.
The eu-president does not have the power to do all those things. |
24th October 2009, 04:42 PM
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Reps: 22,655,783,805,506,600 (power: 22,655,783,805,515) | | Originally Posted by Chipahualca The eu-president does not have the power to do all those things.
Yet
As a figurehead of Europe, they're not going to select someone who is against business, free trade or the Pax Americana. It's probably naive to think otherwise.
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24th October 2009, 07:47 PM
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BARACK OBAMA!
It'd go well with his Nobel Prize!
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24th October 2009, 08:19 PM
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Reps: 1,017,882,919,370,317,952 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by ArnautDaniel Heck, why not -
BARACK OBAMA!
It'd go well with his Nobel Prize!
Heck, why not. He does seem to get everything handed to him on a silver platter.
One-term senator? Here's the Presidency! Said some nice words? Nobel Peace Prize! Knoiw where the EU is on a map? EU Presidency! Farted while shaking Cheny's hand? Emperor of the universe!! |
25th October 2009, 08:02 AM
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Reps: 45,454,215,510,743,368 (power: 45,454,215,510,753) | | Originally Posted by Staccato Yet
As a figurehead of Europe, they're not going to select someone who is against business, free trade or the Pax Americana. It's probably naive to think otherwise.
Understanding is that they are looking for a Social Democrat. Originally Posted by ScottishJohn Please God not Blair, why would it be Blair? Who likes Blair? Who on earth is offering this to Blair. Blair sucks. He is an egomaniac a liar, and a royal pain. He's a total waste of space WHY IS HE EVEN IN THE GAME?!!
ABB? Anybody But Blair?
Come, come, John, have some understanding. The eco people have their own "green" representatives, us Christians have ours, language minorities such as the Swedish-speaking Finns have theirs, so clearly the corrupted liars would want to see their very own representative in the highest places... 
Meanwhile: Miliband has 'no EU job ambition'
Too bad. I would really, really like to see this new generation -- my generation -- Stubb, Miliband to take the helm. The United States of America already has their Obama and Russia has Medvedev. Meanwhile, the EU is still stuck with the old Cold War generation. Originally Posted by ArnautDaniel Heck, why not -
BARACK OBAMA!
It'd go well with his Nobel Prize! Originally Posted by Avatar Heck, why not. He does seem to get everything handed to him on a silver platter.
One-term senator? Here's the Presidency! Said some nice words? Nobel Peace Prize! Knoiw where the EU is on a map? EU Presidency! Farted while shaking Cheny's hand? Emperor of the universe!! Why on earth would the ambitious POTUS even want the job? I can't quite picture the President of the United States of America happily taking orders from lilliputian EU states such as Luxembourg or Finland... Plus, there is no army to command and given the US mindset and reliance on the "bomb policy," European Union President Obama would probably feel like he'd been robbed off of his favourite toys...
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25th October 2009, 05:52 PM
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Reps: 18,572,085,511,231,920 (power: 18,572,085,511,242) | | Originally Posted by Kalevalatar Understanding is that they are looking for a Social Democrat.
ABB? Anybody But Blair?
Come, come, John, have some understanding. The eco people have their own "green" representatives, us Christians have ours, language minorities such as the Swedish-speaking Finns have theirs, so clearly the corrupted liars would want to see their very own representative in the highest places...
Meanwhile: Miliband has 'no EU job ambition'
Too bad. I would really, really like to see this new generation -- my generation -- Stubb, Miliband to take the helm. The United States of America already has their Obama and Russia has Medvedev. Meanwhile, the EU is still stuck with the old Cold War generation. Why on earth would the ambitious POTUS even want the job? I can't quite picture the President of the United States of America happily taking orders from lilliputian EU states such as Luxembourg or Finland... Plus, there is no army to command and given the US mindset and reliance on the "bomb policy," European Union President Obama would probably feel like he'd been robbed off of his favourite toys...
He doesn't have to want it.
I suspect he didn't want the Peace Prize either.
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25th October 2009, 07:57 PM
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Reps: 487,428,604,501,145,536 (power: 487,428,604,501,153) | | | Can I just say, I'm a supporter for pan-Europeanism? It's the only way we can stay noticed in a world that will soon be dominated by China, India and Russia, and our combined economies and militaries would make us the world's foremost economic and military power.
Also, I chose Blair. Partially because he's the only one I'd of, partially because I was actually a fan of Labour when he was in office. Well, for the first six years anyway.
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26th October 2009, 05:01 AM
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Reps: 45,454,215,510,743,368 (power: 45,454,215,510,753) | | Originally Posted by Lokke EU presiident should b e Eva Britt Svensson o f Sweden.
Interesting choice. 
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