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22nd October 2009, 01:13 PM
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Reps: 9,223,372,036,854,775,808 (power: 9,223,372,036,854,908) | | Originally Posted by AV1611VET  I used to make that distinction all the time; but you can't with these guys.
They don't understand Genesis 1, let alone anything beyond that.
I used to refuse to use the word "creationism" when I debated the Creation Week, but now I realize that's futile here; so I go ahead an use it, then, when these guys step outside of Genesis 1, that's when I waste them.
LOL well i just couldn't resist my brotha', cuz i gots to remember the Origin of the word, cuz that be me focus.
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It's not even "too much Old Testament", in the Old Testament God is compassionate, shows mercy, is patient and long-suffering. Consider the lesson we learn from Jonah, or the word delivered to Ezekiel that God does not desire the death of the wicked, that God takes no pleasure or joy in the destruction of the wicked by desires that that the wicked repent and change their ways so they might live and have life. God has always been a merciful, compassionate, kind and patient God who has no desire for the destruction of the wicked, who has loving-kindness for the sinner and for the wicked person to change their ways and truly live and have life. -CryptoLutheran |
22nd October 2009, 01:14 PM
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It is for me.
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~1 Thessalonians 5:21-22 posted by ViaCrucis:
It's not even "too much Old Testament", in the Old Testament God is compassionate, shows mercy, is patient and long-suffering. Consider the lesson we learn from Jonah, or the word delivered to Ezekiel that God does not desire the death of the wicked, that God takes no pleasure or joy in the destruction of the wicked by desires that that the wicked repent and change their ways so they might live and have life. God has always been a merciful, compassionate, kind and patient God who has no desire for the destruction of the wicked, who has loving-kindness for the sinner and for the wicked person to change their ways and truly live and have life. -CryptoLutheran |
22nd October 2009, 01:23 PM
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Reps: 9,223,372,036,854,775,808 (power: 9,223,372,036,856,908) | | Originally Posted by LifeToTheFullest! In the future, would you please refrain from using "you guys" when referring to understanding G1. I understand it just as well as you do.
I doubt that.
Let's see you explain embedded age, which amalgamates G1 w/science --- and I'll be paying particular attention to your word choices.
If you can't --- I'll stick with 'you guys'.
And if you can --- I'll still stick with 'you guys'.
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22nd October 2009, 01:25 PM
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Reps: 205,146,621,849,477,600 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by brinny It is for me.
That's nice - however, that doesn't change the fact that there are Christians who don't accept YEC and still have faith in God and that He created.
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22nd October 2009, 01:29 PM
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Reps: 9,223,372,036,854,775,808 (power: 9,223,372,036,856,908) | | Originally Posted by Cabal That's nice - however, that doesn't change the fact that there are Christians who don't accept YEC and still have faith in God and that He created.
I'll bet they'll agree they're Homo sapiens too.
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22nd October 2009, 01:30 PM
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Reps: 205,146,621,849,477,600 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by AV1611VET ....then, when these guys step outside of Genesis 1, that's when I waste them.
By whining that we're talking about stuff not in Genesis 1?  |
22nd October 2009, 01:32 PM
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Reps: 205,146,621,849,477,600 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by AV1611VET I'll bet they'll agree they're Homo sapiens too.
Sure.
However, your definition of homo sapiens is a strawman of what your opponents claim it is - and your "genetic" "arguments" that you use to define it are utter bunk.
You have been corrected on this time and time again, and I'm getting sick of it. Kindly stop misrepresenting your opponents. False witness is a sin. |
22nd October 2009, 01:43 PM
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Reps: 73,387,680,619,479,952 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by AV1611VET I doubt that.
Let's see you explain embedded age, which amalgamates G1 w/science --- and I'll be paying particular attention to your word choices.
If you can't --- I'll stick with 'you guys'.
And if you can --- I'll still stick with 'you guys'.
Here's where your understanding of G1 goes wrong AV, "embeded age" is nowhere to be found in G1. Your need to amalgamate science with G1 blinds you to this fact. That you have worked out in your mind embeded age doesn't make it so.
If "embeded age" were taught in G1, then the likes of Hovind (father/son), Wise, Ham, Morris, etc. would teach your embeded age theory.
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22nd October 2009, 01:44 PM
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It's all pretty simple and is the only logical answer.
Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
If you want to know more, continue reading in Verse 2. If you don't believe in God, see Psalms 14.
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22nd October 2009, 01:49 PM
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Reps: 9,223,372,036,854,775,808 (power: 9,223,372,036,856,908) | | Originally Posted by 357magnum It's all pretty simple and is the only logical answer.
Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
If you want to know more, continue reading in Verse 2. If you don't believe in God, see Psalms 14.
Check your reps --- 
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