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I used to make that distinction all the time; but you can't with these guys.
They don't understand Genesis 1, let alone anything beyond that.
I used to refuse to use the word "creationism" when I debated the Creation Week, but now I realize that's futile here; so I go ahead an use it, then, when these guys step outside of Genesis 1, that's when I waste them.
LOL well i just couldn't resist my brotha', cuz i gots to remember the Origin of the word, cuz that be me focus.
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To sustain the belief that there is no God, atheism has to demonstrate infinite knowledge, which is tantamount to saying, "I have infinite knowledge that there is no being in existence with infinite knowledge" --Ravi Zacharias
‘If the solar system was brought about by an accidental collision, then the appearance of organic life on this planet was also an accident, and the whole evolution of Man was an accident too. If so, then all our present thoughts are mere accidents—the accidental by-product of the movement of atoms. And this holds for the thoughts of the materialists and astronomers as well as for anyone else’s. But if their thoughts—i.e. of materialism and astronomy—are merely accidental by-products, why should we believe them to be true? I see no reason for believing that one accident should be able to give me a correct account of all the other accidents. It’s like expecting that the accidental shape taken by the splash when you upset a milkjug should give you a correct account of how the jug was made and why it was upset.’
C.S. Lewis
"God is in the rain."~Evey in V for Vendetta
"Strength is born in the deep silence of long suffering hearts; not amid joy." Felicia Hemans
"The unexamined life is not worth living". ~Socrates
i hated it when God insisted i "yawp!"
but He knew i must,
and that my life would not begin,
until i yawped.
We all must learn to yawp.
we MUST awaken the passion,
that part of us that feels intensely,
and is NOT afraid to say so
or to express it.
Otherwise we are just dead men walking.
my journal/blog:
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As do those Christians who reject YEC and accept evolution, so clearly that's not the defining mark.
It is for me.
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To sustain the belief that there is no God, atheism has to demonstrate infinite knowledge, which is tantamount to saying, "I have infinite knowledge that there is no being in existence with infinite knowledge" --Ravi Zacharias
‘If the solar system was brought about by an accidental collision, then the appearance of organic life on this planet was also an accident, and the whole evolution of Man was an accident too. If so, then all our present thoughts are mere accidents—the accidental by-product of the movement of atoms. And this holds for the thoughts of the materialists and astronomers as well as for anyone else’s. But if their thoughts—i.e. of materialism and astronomy—are merely accidental by-products, why should we believe them to be true? I see no reason for believing that one accident should be able to give me a correct account of all the other accidents. It’s like expecting that the accidental shape taken by the splash when you upset a milkjug should give you a correct account of how the jug was made and why it was upset.’
C.S. Lewis
"God is in the rain."~Evey in V for Vendetta
"Strength is born in the deep silence of long suffering hearts; not amid joy." Felicia Hemans
"The unexamined life is not worth living". ~Socrates
i hated it when God insisted i "yawp!"
but He knew i must,
and that my life would not begin,
until i yawped.
We all must learn to yawp.
we MUST awaken the passion,
that part of us that feels intensely,
and is NOT afraid to say so
or to express it.
Otherwise we are just dead men walking.
my journal/blog:
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However, your definition of homo sapiens is a strawman of what your opponents claim it is - and your "genetic" "arguments" that you use to define it are utter bunk.
You have been corrected on this time and time again, and I'm getting sick of it. Kindly stop misrepresenting your opponents. False witness is a sin.
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Let's see you explain embedded age, which amalgamates G1 w/science --- and I'll be paying particular attention to your word choices.
If you can't --- I'll stick with 'you guys'.
And if you can --- I'll still stick with 'you guys'.
Here's where your understanding of G1 goes wrong AV, "embeded age" is nowhere to be found in G1. Your need to amalgamate science with G1 blinds you to this fact. That you have worked out in your mind embeded age doesn't make it so.
If "embeded age" were taught in G1, then the likes of Hovind (father/son), Wise, Ham, Morris, etc. would teach your embeded age theory.
__________________ We are surrounded by endless forms, most beautiful and most wonderful, and it is noaccident, but the direct consequence of evolution by non-random natural selection - the only game in town, the greatest show on Earth. ~R.D.
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It's all pretty simple and is the only logical answer.
Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
If you want to know more, continue reading in Verse 2. If you don't believe in God, see Psalms 14.
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