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Yet you think your God stepped in and got rid of any evidence that there had even been a flood, that doesn't sound very plausable does it yet you don't reject that do you?
The way you are wording it is creating a conflict in your mind.
When you choose to say, 'got rid of any evidence' --- as opposed to saying, 'cleaned up the mess' --- you are reducing the scenario to someone trying to cover his tracks, rather than someone restoring something to its former state.
You are only confusing yourself.
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Last edited by AV1611VET; 22nd October 2009 at 11:42 AM.
The way you are wording it is creating a conflict in your mind.
When you choose to say, 'got ride of any evidence' --- as opposed to saying, 'cleaned up the mess' --- you are reducing the scenario to someone trying to cover his tracks, rather than someone restoring something to its former state.
You are only confusing yourself.
We don't see a former state. We see history, a history that never existed according to you. If it was returned to a former state then we would not see a 3.5 billion year fossil record.
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As a long time participant here, I get embarassed by your silly threads consol.
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lol you give your own opinion the import it does not deserve. Try posting something constructive instead of inflammatory.
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__________________ Creationism has not made a single contribution to agriculture, medicine, conservation, forestry, pathology, or any other applied area of biology. Creationism has yielded no classifications, no biogeographies, no underlying mechanisms, no unifying concepts with which to study organisms or life. - Botanical Society of America's Statement on Evolution
I suppose when you look around the world believing in imaginary beings is quite the normal thing to do, along with shivering when we're cold or sweating when we're hot or all of the other instinctive things we do, just like the other animals on this planet, however, there is one thing we have the other animals don't have, an imagination, everything else is the same, we are born we live we breed and we die, in between we can imagine all kinds of wonderful scenarios that will happen when we die, scenarios that are dependant where on the planet we happen to live.
Since we left the caves our imaginations have been working overtime, just look how many gods we have managed to imagine, thousands, and every one a winner for someone.
I suppose when you look around the world believing in imaginary beings is quite the normal thing to do, along with shivering when we're cold or sweating when we're hot or all of the other instinctive things we do, just like the other animals on this planet, however, there is one thing we have the other animals don't have, an imagination, everything else is the same, we are born we live we breed and we die, in between we can imagine all kinds of wonderful scenarios that will happen when we die, scenarios that are dependant where on the planet we happen to live.
Since we left the caves our imaginations have been working overtime, just look how many gods we have managed to imagine, thousands, and every one a winner for someone.
1. You obviously don't have a cat.
2. There's something animals have that evolutionists deny [I think] that we have: the predisposition to go feral; and it seems to me that a true evolutionist would understand, not prosecute, anyone who does so.
Could any creationist tell me if they have ever been told something about creationism that has made them feel embarrassed?
would you believe anything and everything you were told? if not where would you draw the line?
how ridiculous would something need to be before you said to yourself 'I will not believe that'?
I don't have faith in "creation-ism". I have faith in the CREATOR.
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but He knew i must,
and that my life would not begin,
until i yawped.
We all must learn to yawp.
we MUST awaken the passion,
that part of us that feels intensely,
and is NOT afraid to say so
or to express it.
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I don't have faith in "creation-ism". I have faith in the CREATOR.
I used to make that distinction all the time; but you can't with these guys.
They don't understand Genesis 1, let alone anything beyond that.
I used to refuse to use the word "creationism" when I debated the Creation Week, but now I realize that's futile here; so I go ahead and use it, then, when these guys step outside of Genesis 1, that's when I waste them.
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Last edited by AV1611VET; 22nd October 2009 at 01:19 PM.
The way you are wording it is creating a conflict in your mind.
When you choose to say, 'got rid of any evidence' --- as opposed to saying, 'cleaned up the mess' --- you are reducing the scenario to someone trying to cover his tracks, rather than someone restoring something to its former state.
You are only confusing yourself.
So god cleaned up the mess? How'd that go exactly? Did he vaporize it away, or was it a Can In The Hat scenario?
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I used to make that distinction all the time; but you can't with these guys.
They don't understand Genesis 1, let alone anything beyond that.
I used to refuse to use the word "creationism" when I debated the Creation Week, but now I realize that's futile here; so I go ahead an use it, then, when these guys step outside of Genesis 1, that's when I waste them.
In the future, would you please refrain from using "you guys" when referring to understanding G1. I understand it just as well as you do.
__________________ We are surrounded by endless forms, most beautiful and most wonderful, and it is noaccident, but the direct consequence of evolution by non-random natural selection - the only game in town, the greatest show on Earth. ~R.D.
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