A God who would send someone like you straight to hell is not a God worthy of worship. I believe that God is much better than any of us can know.
__________________ "Dear Lord, bring me through darkness into light. Bring me through pain into peace. Bring me through death into life. Be with me wherever I go, and with everyone I love. In Christ's name I ask it. Amen."
Not where he eats, but where he is eaten: a certain
convocation of politic worms are e'en at him. Your
worm is your only emperor for diet: we fat all
creatures else to fat us, and we fat ourselves for
maggots: your fat king and your lean beggar is but
variable service, two dishes, but to one table:
that's the end.
KING CLAUDIUS
Alas, alas!
HAMLET
A man may fish with the worm that hath eat of a
king, and eat of the fish that hath fed of that worm.
KING CLAUDIUS
What dost you mean by this?
HAMLET
Nothing but to show you how a king may go a
progress through the guts of a beggar.
KING CLAUDIUS
Where is Polonius?
HAMLET
In heaven; send hither to see: if your messenger
find him not there, seek him i' the other place
yourself. But indeed, if you find him not within
this month, you shall nose him as you go up the
stairs into the lobby.
Another way of looking at it would be to believe that a holy God of justice has to punish evil and wrongdoing... and that a God who would just gloss over the crap is not a God worthy or worship or belief.
Another way of looking at it would be to believe that a holy God of justice has to punish evil and wrongdoing... and that a God who would just gloss over the crap is not a God worthy or worship or belief.
Depends on if one can justify an infinite punishment for finite crimes. That's like giving a life sentence to a college pot smoker don't you think?
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Another way of looking at it would be to believe that a holy God of justice has to punish evil and wrongdoing... and that a God who would just gloss over the crap is not a God worthy or worship or belief.
This reduces God to an automaton. Or a tyrant.
And who said God glosses over the crap?
And then there's the question of justice. Is God's justice punitive (i.e. giving people what they deserve) or distributive (i.e. giving people what they need). There is certainly biblical warrant for a view of God's justice as punitive, but the witness of the Christ and the prophets is that God's justice is distributive.
Still, you haven't answered your own questions from the original post.
Don't even get me started on what the Bible says (or doesn't say) about a lot of things Not exactly a hugely reliable resource.
I thought you were just asking some questions here, didn't see this as a debate. I still don't. What I say stands, despite your follow up statements. It doesn't change how I view things at all
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but that this interpretation was only for 'simple believers of simple mind,'
those whose spiritual maturity could not grasp the Word's deeper dimensions."
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The Bible IS a reliable Source!!! It is the word Of God and to Say otherwise is Calling God a liar!! God's Word is complete Truth and He is the word, the Living word. He is the same yesterday and today and forevermore, His word is surely faithful and true and His goodness and mercy shall endure forever....John 1:14 The word became flesh and Made His dwelling among Us . We have seen His Glory of the One and Only, Who came from the Father,full of Grace and Truth...Amen....Dave
Not exactly a hugely reliable resource.
The Bible IS a reliable Source!!! It is the word Of God and to Say otherwise is Calling God a liar!! God's Word is complete Truth and He is the word, the Living word. He is the same yesterday and today and forevermore, His word is surely faithful and true and His goodness and mercy shall endure forever....John 1:14 The word became flesh and Made His dwelling among Us . We have seen His Glory of the One and Only, Who came from the Father,full of Grace and Truth...Amen....Dave
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