Why do the Jewish believe Jesus was not the Messiah?
Another question for the Jews on CF.
Why do you not believe that Jesus was the Messiah? Again, just out of curiosity.
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If you research the Jewish Messiah’s requirements it becomes quite clear that Jesus is not the Jewish Messiah. Read Isaiah 2:4, Jeremiah 31:34, Isaiah 43:5, and Ezekiel 37:26 to begin. Jesus fulfilled not a single requirement from the list I provided. If you say, ‘second coming’ then you need to provide a verse from the Hebrew Bible that supports it but, I will give you a hint…you will not find one.
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Maybe we ought to mention that "messiah" in the context of Judaism doesn't mean "God Incarnate", either. That whole line of thought was completely alien to Judaism, and very likely just made its way into 1st century folklore by means of the Hellenic influences following in the wake of Alexander the Great.
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Yes, the title "messiah" or "MShYCh" is used for quite a few people in the Tanakh, including David.
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Basically what peepnklown said. He met one requirement, and that was riding into Jerusalem on a donkey.
Messiah (or in Greek "Christos") means anointed one. It referred to those anointed with a special oil to be issued into the service of God. Prophets, kings, and the high priest were all anointed with this oil. Also, the Bible also refers to Cyrus, the king of Persia, as messiah when God says He wanted Cyrus to allow the Jews back to Israel to rebuild the temple.
When we come to "The Messiah" we are speaking of a specific person who will be king over Israel during a time where the temple is rebuilt, there is a period of world peace, and all mankind know God without the need of missionaries.
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If your enemy is hungry, give him food to eat; if he is thirsty, give him water to drink.
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If you see the donkey of someone who hates you fallen down under its load, do not leave it there; be sure you help him with it.
Basically what peepnklown said. He met one requirement, and that was riding into Jerusalem on a donkey.
Blah! 1. He would be born of a Virgin (Isaiah 7:14 and Matthew 1:18). 2. He would be of the tribe of Judah (Genesis 49:10 and Luke 3:23, 33). 3. He would be of King David's seed (Jeremiah 23:5 and Luke 3:23, 31). 4. He would be born in Bethlehem (Micah 5:2 and Matthew 2:1). 5. He would be a prophet (Deuteronomy 18:18-19 and Matthew 21:11). 6. He would teach with parables (Psalms 78:2 and Matthew 13:34). 7. He would be preceded by a messenger (Isaiah 40:3, Malachi 3:1, and Matthew 3:1-2). 8. He would enter Jerusalem on a colt (Zechariah 9:9 and Luke 19:35-37). 9. He would be betrayed by a friend (Psalms 41:9 and Matthew 26:47-50). 10. He would be betrayed for 30 pieces of silver (Zechariah 11:12 and Matthew 26:15). 11. He would be forsaken by His disciples (Zechariah 13:7 and Mark 14:50). 12. The money would be thrown in the temple and used to buy the potter's field (Zechariah 11:13 and Matthew 27:5-7). 13. He would be accused by false witnesses (Psalms 35:11 and Matthew 26:59-60). 14. He would be silent before His accusers (Isaiah 53:7 and Matthew 27:12-14). 15. He would be beaten by his enemies (Isaiah 50:6, 53:5, and Matthew 27:26). 16. He would be spit upon and beaten (Isaiah 50:6 and Matthew 27:30). 17. He would be struck in the head with a rod (Micah 5:1 and Matthew 27:30). 18. He would be mocked (Psalms 22:7-8 and Matthew 27:29, 31). 19. His hands and feet would be pierced (Psalms 22:16, Luke 23:33, and John 20:25). Note that this was predicted hundreds of years before crucifixion was invented. 20. Men would gamble for His clothing (Psalms 22:18 and John 19:23-24). 21. He would intercede in prayer for His transgressors (Isaiah 53:12 and Luke 23:34). 22. He would suffer thirst (Psalms 22:15 and John 19:28). 23. He would be offered gall and water (Psalms 69:21 and Matthew 27:34). 24. He would cry, "My God, My God, why hast thou forsaken me!" (Psalms 22:1 and Matthew 27:46). 25. He would be cut down in His prime (Psalms 89:45 and 102:23-24). 26. None of His bones would be broken (Exodus 12:46, Psalms 34:20, and John 19:32-33). 27. They would look upon Him whom they had pierced (Zechariah 12:10 and John 19:34). 28. He would be executed with thieves (Isaiah 53:12 and Matthew 27:38). 29. He would be buried in a rich man's tomb (Isaiah 53:9 and Matthew 27:57-60).
Maybe we ought to mention that "messiah" in the context of Judaism doesn't mean "God Incarnate", either. That whole line of thought was completely alien to Judaism, and very likely just made its way into 1st century folklore by means of the Hellenic influences following in the wake of Alexander the Great.
If you research the Jewish Messiah’s requirements it becomes quite clear that Jesus is not the Jewish Messiah. Read Isaiah 2:4, Jeremiah 31:34, Isaiah 43:5, and Ezekiel 37:26 to begin. Jesus fulfilled not a single requirement from the list I provided. If you say, ‘second coming’ then you need to provide a verse from the Hebrew Bible that supports it but, I will give you a hint…you will not find one.
Isaiah 2:4- Future prophesy. Part of the end of days (See Isaiah 2:2). Jeremiah 31:34- See 1 Thess 4:9, 1 John 2:27, John 6:45, 1 John 2:20, Romans 11:27, and Hebrews 10:17. Isaiah 43:5- Not sure why you are quoting this verse but Israel was reestablished in 1948 and quite a few Jews have come from all sides of the compass. Ezekiel 37:26- Start reading verse 24. David did indeed become king of Israel. The everlasting covenant refers to the coming of Jesus Christ which is from the line of David. Already happened.
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Please understand that the Jewish understanding of the verses you have provided is very different from the Christian understanding. For example, your first example is not seen as a messianic prophecy at all. The word virgin in Isaiah is also disputed by Jews, where most Jewish translations actually say "young woman" and not virgin. We do not believe the messiah will be born of a virgin. I am going to stop there as I am not allowed to debate here. There was a question asked, and I answered it with the Jewish understanding. There is no need for disrespect
So, in the end, Jews do have reasons for their rejection. They are not, I'm sure, reasons you agree with, but your reasons are not ones that Jews agree with. That's why there are two religions.
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If your enemy is hungry, give him food to eat; if he is thirsty, give him water to drink.
Exodus 23:5
If you see the donkey of someone who hates you fallen down under its load, do not leave it there; be sure you help him with it.
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