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Oh well, lets get back to the grime, and let our Messiah sort out the affairs of Mr. TB.

As the old saying goes: "Once bitten, twice shy!"

If Mr. TB has really repented for his sin, then why did he remarry, we all know that in our Messiah's eyes he is still in adultery. You can call it whatever you like, but he made marriage vows with his first wife and they are still in force, and his vows he has made with his second wife, are not worth the paper that they are written on.
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Old 21st October 2009, 02:19 AM
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Originally Posted by bsd31 View Post
He's a Christian who committed the second unpardonable sin.

In American Christian theology there are two unpardonable sins. The first being grieving the Holy Spirit. The second, lesser known yet just as damnable sin is... well, sinning.

The long and short of it is that Todd Bentley was leading a large healing revival meeting in Lakeland Florida that went on for a couple of months. During that time he fell into sin, adultery, which resulted in divorce and him marrying the woman he committed adultery with.

I don't know that I'd call him a celebrity. Until Lakeland I had never heard of him and I doubt most people had unless they had met him or seen one of his healing revival meetings.
I wouldn't say he was leading a revival as such. More like putting on a show that P.T. Barnum would have been mighty proud of.
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Originally Posted by mrhappy3 View Post
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Not a bad looking girl - any chance he was seduced ? (forgive me for thinking such).
I would think that if you listened to the video you would not think that.
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Originally Posted by FaultySurplus View Post
I wouldn't say he was leading a revival as such. More like putting on a show that P.T. Barnum would have been mighty proud of.
I wasn't there but several people I spoke with who went said that yes it had a circus like atmosphere but God was definitely moving in the midst of it all. And honestly anytime you can get a group of people together, particularly in America, to worship God it's pretty close to a miracle so I don't know that the word "revival" is that far out there.
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Is it that bad there ?????Sound like the UK then.
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forgiveness

God can forgive...and does...
and after He does,
we should be careful in criticism...

I don't doubt thta they have repented,
and have then been forgiven...

what is in question is not that wrong,
but we need to test the doctrines taught...
and if they were wrong before,
and unchanged now,
then we cointinue to intercede
that he come to truth

...they admitted wrong in their behavior...
are their doctrines unchanged, or the same,
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Originally Posted by the.Sheepdog View Post
and repentance would include what in this case? divorcing the second wife? I dont see that.

That's not really the problem. The problem is he cheated on his wife then they divorced and he remarried the other woman and then was "restored" to ministry less than a year later.

He's remarried and putting his life back together. Fine.

But restored to the ministry.

Less. than. a. year. later.

Has the body of Christ lost its mind???
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That's not really the problem. The problem is he cheated on his wife then they divorced and he remarried the other woman and then was "restored" to ministry less than a year later.

He's remarried and putting his life back together. Fine.

But restored to the ministry.

Less. than. a. year. later.

Has the body of Christ lost its mind???
yes. but what else is new?
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God can forgive...and does...and after He does, we should be careful in criticism...I don't doubt thta they have repented,and have then been forgiven...what is in question is not that wrong,but we need to test the doctrines taught...and if they were wrong before, and unchanged now,then we cointinue to intercede that he come to truth...they admitted wrong in their behavior...are their doctrines unchanged, or the same, is what I would want to know..armyofProphets.com

Hi Murj,

HE only forgives when sin is confessed and repented.

Sometimes being aware of a situation and evidence of the situation and consideration of the situation as per HIS WORD in regards to readmitting a leader who has fallen, and is still living in---isn't criticism, but spiritual concern.

And as far as the situation is concerned we can confess and repent as much as we like but HIS WORD is definite in regards to divorce that he did very and remarried. This man destroyed his wife and children's lives. And I believe in the eyes of our Messiah and HIS WORD that they are still living in adultery.

Yes we are given a second chance, but those who led this man to his fall, are counselling him and are still promoting the same false teaching that led him to his fall. I have no faith in the people who are counselling him.

No doubt many have interceded for the person concerned, and just by admitting what he did wrong doesn't change HIS WORD in regards to marriage and divorce.

1 Tim. 5:17 to 6:10; as verse 22 is a warning twoard those who "hastily" (v22) restore a leader who has fallen, particularly to "adultery"; and how can anyone say that they are "pure" (V22) when we need to evaluate anyone being considered for or returned to leadership who are no longer qualified to lead.
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