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A Snare Has Been Set

Sunday, October 18, 2009, 10:48 p.m. – I lay down in bed to sleep when I had THIS VISION: The mouth of a lion appeared on my right (east) facing the left (west). It looked as though it was yawning with its tongue sticking out toward the left (west). Then I saw a right arm and a hand extend out from the mouth toward the left (west). After that it appeared as though the mouth was like a vacuum that was sucking air inside of it and the arm and hand appeared like it was reaching out from inside this mouth as if to call whatever was to be sucked inside the mouth.

Following this I had an image of my mom in my mind. She died in June of 2000. Then, I saw something I can’t recall followed by an image of my aunt, her younger sister, who died in January of 1990. Both women died of cancer.

Then I saw this mouth again, still on my right (east) and still facing the left (west). There appeared to be more than one mouth or else it was just one mouth with varied tongues, for I saw the lion’s tongue sticking out and I also saw a snake’s forked tongue stick out and these appeared to alternate at a pretty fast and intense speed.

I then saw a leopard on my right (east) facing the left (west) growl or snarl and then extend its claws as though ready to attack something or someone. There was a battle that followed between the leopard and another animal or animals. It was pretty fearsome. Then the battle was over and everything felt very quiet and peaceful. END

All during this the song Jesus, Keep Me Near the Cross, was going through my mind.

Jesus, Keep Me Near the Cross / Fanny J. Crosby / William H. Doane

Jesus, keep me near the cross;
There a precious fountain,
Free to all, a healing stream,
Flows from Calvary's mountain.

Near the cross, a trembling soul,
Love and mercy found me;
There the bright and morning star
Sheds its beams around me.

Near the cross! O Lamb of God,
Bring its scenes before me;
Help me walk from day to day
With its shadow o'er me.

Near the cross I'll watch and wait,
Hoping, trusting ever,
Till I reach the golden strand
Just beyond the river.

In the cross, in the cross,
Be my glory ever,
Till my raptured soul shall find
Rest beyond the river.

Speak, Lord, for your servant is listening. I read Amos 3:

Witnesses Summoned Against Israel
1 Hear this word the LORD has spoken against you, O people of Israel—against the whole family I brought up out of Egypt:
2 "You only have I chosen
of all the families of the earth;
therefore I will punish you
for all your sins."
3 Do two walk together
unless they have agreed to do so?
4 Does a lion roar in the thicket
when he has no prey?
Does he growl in his den
when he has caught nothing?
5 Does a bird fall into a trap on the ground
where no snare has been set?
Does a trap spring up from the earth
when there is nothing to catch?

6 When a trumpet sounds in a city,
do not the people tremble?
When disaster comes to a city,
has not the LORD caused it?
7 Surely the Sovereign LORD does nothing
without revealing his plan
to his servants the prophets.
8 The lion has roared
who will not fear?
The Sovereign LORD has spoken—
who can but prophesy?
9 Proclaim to the fortresses of Ashdod
and to the fortresses of Egypt:
"Assemble yourselves on the mountains of Samaria;
see the great unrest within her
and the oppression among her people."
10 "They do not know how to do right," declares the LORD,
"who hoard plunder and loot in their fortresses."

11 Therefore this is what the Sovereign LORD says:
"An enemy will overrun the land;
he will pull down your strongholds
and plunder your fortresses."
12 This is what the LORD says:
"As a shepherd saves from the lion's mouth
only two leg bones or a piece of an ear,
so will the Israelites be saved,
those who sit in Samaria
on the edge of their beds
and in Damascus on their couches. "
13 "Hear this and testify against the house of Jacob," declares the Lord, the LORD God Almighty.
14 "On the day I punish Israel for her sins,
I will destroy the altars of Bethel;
the horns of the altar will be cut off
and fall to the ground.
15 I will tear down the winter house
along with the summer house;
the houses adorned with ivory will be destroyed
and the mansions will be demolished,"
declares the LORD.

Monday, October 19, 2009 - My Understanding: I read the news this morning. Two articles stood out to me:

The European Union - the new sleeping giant? The European Union - the new sleeping giant?

Bagram Airfield keeps growing - More than $200 million in projects in the works
Bagram Airfield keeps growing - Local / Metro - The State

The article about Bagram, Afghanistan, states that “Official U.S. policy is not to create a permanent occupation force in Afghanistan. But from what’s happening at Bagram Aiirfield – the Afghan end of the Charleston-to-Afghanistan lifeline – the US military won’t be packing up soon. More than $200 million in construction projects – from dormitories to cargo-handling yards – either are under way or planned on just the Air Force side of the base. Millions more will be spent by the U.S. Army on streets, roads, sewers and a wastewater treatment plant…

“U.S. troops arrived in Bagram in 2001, occupying a base first used during the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan from 1979 to 1989.” “Bagram has grown so fast over the past couple of years that Air Force commanders have ordered civil engineers to come up with a master plan for the base.” Then comes the decision as far as placement of units – “For example, helicopter rotors stir up rocks. But helicopters are based next to fighter jets, whose engines suck in anything close to their air intakes.” “Today, more than 100 U.S. and NATO units call Bagram home…” “Once everybody’s property started turning into their neighbor’s property, you started having disputes.”

When I read this part of the article about the fighter jets, whose engines suck in anything close to their air intakes, it made me think of this lion whose mouth was like a vacuum that was sucking air inside of its mouth. Also, these dates mentioned appear to correspond with the dates of death of my mom and my aunt. My mom died in 2000. The U.S. entered Bagram in 2001. Perhaps there is a reference here to the death of the U.S. as we know it that took place in 2000/2001 and the death of the Soviet Union in 1990. More on that…

Wikipedia: “On February 7, 1990, the Central Committee of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union agreed to give up its monopoly of power. Over the next several weeks, the 15 constituent republics of the USSR held their first competitive elections. Reformers and ethnic nationalists won many of the seats… The final round of the Soviet Union collapse took place following the Ukrainian popular referendum on December 1, 1991, wherein 90% of voters opted for independence. The leaders of Slavic republics agreed to meet for a discussion of possible forms of relationship, alternative to Gorbachev's struggle for a union.

“On December 8, 1991, the leaders of the Russian, Ukrainian, and Belarusian republics met in Belavezhskaya Pushcha and signed the Belavezha Accords declaring the Soviet Union dissolved and replacing it with the Commonwealth of Independent States (CIS). Gorbachev described this as an unconstitutional coup, but it soon became clear that the development could not be halted…” History of the Soviet Union (1985?1991) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

To be continued...
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Then, there is the article “The European Union – the new sleeping giant?” This article stood out to me mainly because, when I got to the very end of the article (the very end maybe having a significance here) I read, “… the E.U. will continue to admit more members and grow more powerful. Much remains to be decided, but whatever happens, the United States soon will have a powerful ally – or a fearsome rival.” Those were interesting terms, “whatever” and “fearsome” as the Lord gave me those same descriptive words in this vision to describe the “whatever happens” as this lion sucking stuff inside its mouth and an enemy and a war as “fearsome.”

In my newspaper, the article had a different title: “A new rival: The united states of Europe.” So, when I read the article online and saw the title of “the new sleeping giant”, it made me think of the lion appearing as though it was yawning and it was sticking out its tongue toward the west along with that yawn. And, in essence, this growth of the European Union and the potential for it replacing the U.S.A. as the world’s new “super power” is sticking its tongue out at the west. And, the “sucking” in this case, along with the extended arm and hand of invitation, has to do with admitting more members and thus growing more powerful.

Yet, I also see that it is sucking people from the west toward the east, which is seen in the growth of our military operations in Iraq and Afghanistan. I don’t believe that we are pulling completely out of Iraq. We did not build an Embassy in Iraq on the Tigris river (very important prophetically to end times) the size of the Vatican, and a self-contained city at that, in order to just pull out of Iraq. There is more there than meets the eye. And, it sounds as though we are doing something similar in Afghanistan. And, Iran and Pakistan are coming into play, as well here. I believe all of this is moving toward this New World Order and that the U.S.A. is going to get sucked inside the vacuum, if we haven’t already.

This Lisbon Treaty is really significant and it appears that only the Czech president is a hold-out. The Chzech parliament already has ratified the agreement. Treaty of Lisbon - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. Once the Czech president signs, then the E.U. becomes more like the United States and will have its own president. Tony Blair is the frontrunner for this position now.

I believe what the Lord is showing me here is that this is a lion with more than one tongue (voice; message). It has a lion’s tongue but I also saw the forked tongue of a snake coming from this lion, so the Lord is showing that this tongue is deceptive, has marked duplicity (deceit; treachery; betrayal) and untruthfulness.

I get the impression here that this passage in Amos, as applied to today, is to be applied to the whole family of God, i.e. the universal church, though the pronouncement of judgment appeared to be primarily addressed to the northern kingdom. I have often seen the USA as the “northern kingdom” since 40% of Jews live in the USA and 40% live in Israel and the other 20% are scattered throughout the rest of the world, though I believe this is speaking to the church – Jewish and Gentile believers alike.

The warning here is that we should not think just because we are Christians that God will spare us from his judgment. The scriptures clearly teach that God disciplines those he loves and that he judges his church. I also believe that there is a message here that we, as Americans, should not think we will be spared God’s judgment just because we are wealthy and powerful or because we are considered a “Christian nation.” Even though God has surely blessed America in the past, it is not a guarantee of future blessing. God demands personal obedience to his commands.

Because we are Christians and therefore we are God’s chosen people - chosen by God for a divine purpose – that brings with it much responsibility. We have an obligation to obey Almighty God, to follow His commands and to walk in Jesus’ ways. Yet, what the Lord has been showing me for the past five years, in particular, is that the church of today is indistinguishable from the world. The church has adopted so many of the world’s methods and practices. There is not much that separates Christians from the world and distinguishes them as true followers of Jesus Christ. So many Christians live in spiritual adultery and idolatry.

The gospel message has been watered down to not include words like sin, obedience, and repentance. Amos said that the Israelites did not know how to do right. He said that their “moral sense had become so warped that right and wrong were blurred” (ZNIV Bible Commentary). And, I believe that is a picture of today’s church. So, in order for God to bring his people back into a right relationship with him, he must bring judgment, because his people are not heeding his warnings and they are refusing to repent and to turn from their wicked ways and to return to their Lord.

As I read about this passage in the ZNIV Bible commentary, I realized that the question about the lion roaring in the thicket when he has no prey was a question with an obvious answer. The lion does not roar when he is stalking his prey. Otherwise he would give away that he was there and he would scare off his prey. That is why this lion in this vision is appearing as a “sleeping giant” who is yawning, because he is to not appear as though he is ready to pounce on his unsuspecting prey. In other words, there is more to this E.U. than meets the eye. Perhaps this is the NWO disguised as the E.U. It has a forked tongue. What is clear is that this E.U. is sucking countries into its mouth and that they are about to become a very powerful force. From this is going to come a war. We will be attacked by a leopard.

Leopard – “large, agile member of the cat family known for its spotted fur, climbing skills, and secretive habits. A superbly designed predator with a long, well-muscled body, powerful limbs, and broad paws, the leopard combines the power and strength of the big cats with the grace and versatility of the smaller cats.” Leopard - MSN Encarta

That definition sounds like a union of “small cats” into one “big cat.” The animal is spotted – marked; stained; flawed; tarnished; blemished (Encarta). The ZNIV Bible Commentary, in discussing v.7, stated that a “plan” may “connote the scheming of those united against others.” I thought this was an interesting choice of terms. In v. 7, God is saying that he doesn’t do anything without first revealing his plan to his servants the prophets. Well, the final events on the earth were written about in God’s word in both the OT and the NT and we are now beginning to see many of these last days’ prophecies come to fulfillment before our eyes, I believe.
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Leopard – “large, agile member of the cat family known for its spotted fur, climbing skills, and secretive habits. A superbly designed predator with a long, well-muscled body, powerful limbs, and broad paws, the leopard combines the power and strength of the big cats with the grace and versatility of the smaller cats.” Leopard - MSN Encarta

That definition sounds like a union of “small cats” into one “big cat.” The animal is spotted – marked; stained; flawed; tarnished; blemished (Encarta). The ZNIV Bible Commentary, in discussing v.7, stated that a “plan” may “connote the scheming of those united against others.” I thought this was an interesting choice of terms. In v. 7, God is saying that he doesn’t do anything without first revealing his plan to his servants the prophets. Well, the final events on the earth were written about in God’s word in both the OT and the NT and we are now beginning to see many of these last days’ prophecies come to fulfillment before our eyes, I believe.

Jeremiah 5:6: “Therefore a lion from the forest will attack them, a wolf from the desert will ravage them, a leopard will lie in wait near their towns to tear to pieces any who venture out, for their rebellion is great and their backslidings many.”

Daniel 7:6: "After that, I looked, and there before me was another beast, one that looked like a leopard. And on its back it had four wings like those of a bird. This beast had four heads, and it was given authority to rule.”

Hosea 13:7: “So I will come upon them like a lion, like a leopard I will lurk by the path.”

Habakkuk 1:7-9: “They are a feared and dreaded people;
they are a law to themselves
and promote their own honor.

8 Their horses are swifter than leopards,
fiercer than wolves at dusk.
Their cavalry gallops headlong;
their horsemen come from afar.
They fly like a vulture swooping to devour;

9 they all come bent on violence.
Their hordes advance like a desert wind
and gather prisoners like sand.”

Revelation 13:2: “And I saw a beast coming out of the sea. He had ten horns and seven heads, with ten crowns on his horns, and on each head a blasphemous name. The beast I saw resembled a leopard, but had feet like those of a bear and a mouth like that of a lion. The dragon gave the beast his power and his throne and great authority.”
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The formation of the global government/new world order.

Copenhagen in December 2009 - UN agreement among nations to empower UN through cap and tax scheme.

Anorak News Blog Archive Gordon Brown Has 50 Days To Save The World From Global Warming Plague
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Copenhagen in December 2009 - UN agreement among nations to empower UN through cap and tax scheme.

Anorak News Blog Archive Gordon Brown Has 50 Days To Save The World From Global Warming Plague
Thanks! I appreciate the input. How do you see this treaty that is to be signed in Copehagen as fitting with the NWO?
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Lord Monckton Warns Obama to Cede U.S. Sovereignty Right Pundits

"We have the video here of Lord Monckton’s speech in which he warns that Obama is poised to cede U.S. Sovereignty in the name of global warming."
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Originally Posted by HisdaughterJen View Post
Lord Monckton Warns Obama to Cede U.S. Sovereignty Right Pundits

"We have the video here of Lord Monckton’s speech in which he warns that Obama is poised to cede U.S. Sovereignty in the name of global warming."

I am not familiar with "Lord Monckton." What authority does he have to make such a statement? I am not doubting that this could be true, I would just like to have more information. I do believe this is the direction our nation is headed in one way or another.
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