So, recently I've been looking into getting myself a new translation of the Word. In the past, I've been an NIV guy, and its still a good translation, but I find myself increasingly looking things up in the KJV online and the lyricism of the archaic language appeals to me a great deal.
So I thought I'd start looking into the various KJV editions.
After much looking, I finally found one that was still lyrical, and was a reprinting of the original manuscript of the KJV as it should have been printed, but got messed up by primitive printing presses. This is the "New Cambridge Paragraph Bible", which is a successor to the "Cambridge Paragraph Bible with Apocrypha", but is a much more conservative transcription of the original translators intentions for the text.
Also, it includes the Apocrypha. While I don't believe they are particularly authentic, I've never had a Bible with them, and I was hoping to get one that included them.
The big things that are cleaned up are all the huge spelling errors in the original KJV printings, things like "Spake" to "Spoke" while keeping the "Ye"s "Thines"s and "thous".
It also uses a single column format, in regular paragraphs, and resets the psalms according to proper Hebrew poetic conventions. I've read an excerpt and it reads very well...
It looks like a very compatible translation for me.
Problem. It never really caught on. The leather bound edition is no more, and what few copies you can find used are obscenely expensive.
The hardcover edition can be bought used online.... but I can't find a Single picture of it! I simply cannot buy something as expensive as a nice Bible without even seeing it first.
So, I was wondering if:
1. Anyone's ever heard of the New Cambridge Paragraph Bible with Apocrypha
2. Ever seen one
3. Could PLEASE show me some pictures of the New Cambridge Paragraph Bible with Apocrypha, give me a link, or just post the pictures into a post. As many as you can find.
Of course, if there are any other editions that fit my general criteria, I'd be very grateful if you would mention them.
My general criteria are:
1. a KJV that uses the lyrical archaic languages (Thee, thou, ye people, beholdeth)
2. Not aesthetically awful. I'm not a nut, but simple imitation leather or something would be nice. Bonded leather would be a nice minimum. I'm kind of a book-quality freak, so I really would like to have something that isn't just some ugly logo on board covers.
3. I'd really like something that includes the Apocrypha, simply because I don't have any Bible which includes it, and would like to have one that does.
Bump, I'm really hoping to get some more information. I'd really very much appreciate any help someone could give me. I feel like this is a very compatible translation/printing of the Bible, but it seems to have not caught on, so I'm having a hard time finding information about it.
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Thanks, I've just had a hard time finding a KJV that still includes the Apocrypha, and keeps the high language.... And at the same time is at least bonded leather, and can be comfortably held/carried around/slipped into a bag.
I just find hardcover bibles really distracting and annoying. Unfortunately, that seems to be the only way a KJV+Apocrypha Bible is printed these days.
You can also get a Douay-Rheims that includes the deuterocanon (what you call Apocrypha). The original predates the KJV. It has much of the old-style English, and you can peruse the language here. Below is the 1899 translation.
*sigh* Its a pity that these nice old Bibles are so obscure. What I want to see is something like the Douay-Rheims or the 1611 edition of the King James (with simple spelling corrections) reprinted in imitation or bonded leather like the NIV gets.
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"We can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the dark; the real tragedy of life is when men are afraid of the light." --Plato
"I cried unto the LORD with my voice, and He heard me out of His holy hill." Psalm 3:4
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You can buy the KJV apocrypha separately in small red hardcover edition.
Cambridge quality isn't what it used to be. I used to work for a Christian bookstore and after Cambridge got bought by another company they no longer offered full leather lining. The Thomas Nelson signature series is much nicer.
Personally, I think the NKJV is the best overall. I tend to use the RSV for the Apocrypha.
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Oh yeah, I saw that blog, its actually where I found out about the edition. It saddens me immensely that it is so large though. So bulky.
Originally Posted by wildboar
You can buy the KJV apocrypha separately in small red hardcover edition.
Cambridge quality isn't what it used to be. I used to work for a Christian bookstore and after Cambridge got bought by another company they no longer offered full leather lining. The Thomas Nelson signature series is much nicer.
Personally, I think the NKJV is the best overall. I tend to use the RSV for the Apocrypha.
Hmm, I have heard of the decline in Cambridge quality. I've been lurking on R.L Allen's website since I've heard good things about their Bibles. They have a NCPB Hardcover listed on their website, interestingly enough.
Anyways, I've looked at the NKJV, and I think that its nice but I prefer the somewhat more archaic language of the KJV.
If I decide not to get the NCPB in hardcover, I can get that.
As it is, I think I'm going to consider the reprinting of the 1611 KJV, since as I've said, Hendrickson is releasing it this coming February. Hendrickson.com - KJV Bible–1611 Edition
Or I might cave and buy a more compact KJV, and simply also pick up a copy of the Apocrypha. Its just a shame that they can't manage to make a nice KJV with apocrypha that is slightly more portable then the huge brick of the NCPB
__________________ "There is no struggle too vast, no odds too overwhelming, for ever should we fail- should we fall- we will know that we have lived." --Anomander Rake.
"We can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the dark; the real tragedy of life is when men are afraid of the light." --Plato
"I cried unto the LORD with my voice, and He heard me out of His holy hill." Psalm 3:4
"The virtuous man is never a novice in worldly things." Marcus Valerius Martialis
Cambridge used to publish a Presentation KJV with Apocrypha but it's out of print now and pretty pricey from what I've seen from used booksellers. The Presentation edition is a little more portable than the Paragraph but I think that the Concord is ideal. Unfortunately, I don't think they every published a Concord w/Apocrypha. I still use the KJV for some of my regular Bible reading but tend not to use it for the Apocrypha much. The Apocrypha KJV translation isn't as good as the rest of the Bible in the KJV. Also the RSV has an expanded edition of the Apocrypha which contains books contained in the Eastern canon that are not found in the KJV Apocrypha. There probably just isn't a huge market for the KJV with the Apocrypha.
__________________ Poets have been mysteriously silent on the subject of cheese. - G.K. Chesterton
Its so tantalizing. I went to my school's bookstore today (and they didn't have Wheel of Time book 12, The Gathering Storm which came out today either) and they had the obligatory mass of NIVs, they seemed to have an obsession with the RSV, a single, large print $66 KJV that was a giant brick the size of my bag....
*sigh*
Its annoying, they can print pocket RSV's with Apocrypha, but they can't do the same with the KJV?
Or just buy that pocket KJV and a copy of the Apocrypha by itself... hmm.
Of I could wait until February and buy the Hendrickson reprint of the 1611 edition.
Maybe I'm being a bit silly being this particular, but I just like leather or bonded/imitation leather bibles that fit into the palm of my hand and are loose, not hardcover. I like the KJV. I like the Apocrypha (somewhat). And I have a Crossway Compact ESV that I consider the perfect size, with a marker ribbon in black bonded leather. It is 3.75 x 5.75 x 0.75 Inches and fits perfectly into my hand. I just wish it was KJV and included the apocrypha (understanding that this would make it a bit thicker.)
__________________ "There is no struggle too vast, no odds too overwhelming, for ever should we fail- should we fall- we will know that we have lived." --Anomander Rake.
"We can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the dark; the real tragedy of life is when men are afraid of the light." --Plato
"I cried unto the LORD with my voice, and He heard me out of His holy hill." Psalm 3:4
"The virtuous man is never a novice in worldly things." Marcus Valerius Martialis
Last edited by laconicstudent; 27th October 2009 at 05:56 PM.
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