I think this all comes down to 2 Chronicles 7 v 13
“When I shut up the heavens so that there is no rain, or command locusts to devour the land or send a plague among my people, 14if my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and I will forgive their sin and will heal their land."
I hear it over and over again from different people since God said it to me a couple of years ago.
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I think this all comes down to 2 Chronicles 7 v 13
“When I shut up the heavens so that there is no rain, or command locusts to devour the land or send a plague among my people, 14if my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and I will forgive their sin and will heal their land."
I hear it over and over again from different people since God said it to me a couple of years ago.
Amen!
Let's continue to pray for ourselves, our nation, and the world.
Anyone who has actually read the Old Testament would recognize this word as being consistent with God’s warnings to Israel.
"Go and proclaim these words toward the north and say, 'Return, faithless Israel,' declares the LORD; 'I will not look upon you in anger. For I am gracious,' declares the LORD; 'I will not be angry forever. 'Only acknowledge your iniquity, That you have transgressed against the LORD your God And have scattered your favors to the strangers under every green tree, And you have not obeyed My voice,' declares the LORD. Jeremiah 3:12, 13
If we are faithless (unfaithful) - why should we consider that we have immunity from God’s wrath? Surely, if we are IN Christ, there is no condemnation (Rom 8:1), but if we are wandering around in a religion of our own devising are we in (the will of) Christ?
Some believe that God is a God of love ONLY; they refuse to acknowledge that Jesus died for a reason. And what might that reason be? Could it be the wrath of God?
Or does now that He has given His only Son, does He now merely wink at our seeker-friendly, politically correct, social sensitivities? AKA:
...God’s wrath is only something of the past and we need not concern ourselves with His opinion. ...Now that we’ve said the magic words – gaining “entrance to heaven”, we can continue to follow the god of SELF. ...After all, it’s “once-saved-always-saved”, right? …OR is it the one who endures to the end (our personal end) who shall be saved
Is God satisfied with nominal Christianity? Does one hour a week make up for 167 hours of our doing our own thing? Even doing all sorts of things FOR God – will that impress Him? (Mat 7:22-24) OR should we be seeking to follow the Lord as He leads us?
But if the Spirit of Him who raised Jesus from the dead dwells in you, He who raised Christ Jesus from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies through His Spirit who dwells in you. So then, brethren, we are under obligation, not to the flesh, to live according to the flesh-- for if you are living according to the flesh, you must die; but if by the Spirit you are putting to death the deeds of the body, you will live. For all who are being led by the Spirit of God, these are sons of God. Romans 8:11-14
For whatever was written in earlier times was written for our instruction, so that through perseverance and the encouragement of the Scriptures we might have hope. Romans 15:4
I think this all comes down to 2 Chronicles 7 v 13
“When I shut up the heavens so that there is no rain, or command locusts to devour the land or send a plague among my people, 14if my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and I will forgive their sin and will heal their land."
I hear it over and over again from different people since God said it to me a couple of years ago.
For those that can't figure this out on their own. This word is not for people who are truly following Christ, but for church attenders that think their religion will saved them. Sinners who believe themselves to be saved because their religion is ''Christianity''
My face is against you, says the Lord. For you do not regard me, nor consider me in your ways. You live a life of debauchery, lavishness, and revelry. Your hands are unclean, your hearts are impure, and you are NOT justified in my sight.
Therefore you shall be consumed. Your flesh shall melt from your bones. Just as the grass withers when the sun rises, so shall you wither when My Son descends from Heaven.
Repent therefore and be renewed. Rejoice and be refreshed. Trust in me and be restored.
Humble yourself before me. Turn your hearts toward mine. And I will withhold my anger. I will exalt you. You shall shine as the sun.
Repent not and you will see my wrath. And know that I am God
Its is not important, Jesus is Word, If you believe that there is only one who calls
himself lord, You will then believe anything that is told to you. Remember the person who
claims " Says the Lord " is auto-writing these lines that means a spirit is doing the thinking and writing through the host.
__________________ Mark 15:38 Enter into the Temple it is now open
to all.
In warfare, you had better know who is doing the talking or you are dead.
Same thing is spiritual warfare.
even pastors are fooled.
And you aint seen nothing of the power of the Dark Side.
this is child's play. Automatic writing, says the lord.
My face is against you, says the Lord.
( The Father is in Heaven, wonder whose lords face is of the earth's.
a little creepy.
(Lord who?
For you do not regard me, nor consider me in your ways.
(Why should I regard you, you are cloaking you identity
.
You live a life of debauchery, lavishness, and revelry.
Your hands are unclean, your hearts are impure, and you are NOT justified in my sight.
(Thank Goodness. Notice does not mention the mind.
We are justified in the Father's Sight by the Act of Jesus, not from anything that
we could do. My mind focus's on the Act of Jesus, which leads me to the Act of the
Father, which saves me. I am justified in my Father's sight. I am bathed in the Live
Blood and Water of the Son of the Father, Jesus.
(Yeah, same old story on how bad, creation is, But I thought
that Jesus is our Redeemer and he said it was finished.
Therefore you shall be consumed.
( a threat that I am going to be eaten
Your flesh shall melt from your bones.
( flesh decays and so do your bones, melts as in burning?
What about our soul and spirit. who cares about our physical
body. smack talk.
Just as the grass withers when the sun rises,
(The grass grows in the lite of the sun. It withers in the darkness.
so shall you wither when My Son descends from Heaven.
(Satan has a son too. Remember David and Bathsheba,
The little tot that was destroyed, 7 days into his kingdom.
Do you think satan calls his realm " hell " no he calls it heaven, also.
he thinks he is god. remember.
(Jesus has already descended from Heaven, 2000 years ago.
He ascended and is at the Right Hand of the Father.
Jesus does not wither, he Provides the light. Follow me.
Repent therefore and be renewed.
Rejoice and be refreshed.
Trust in me and be restored.
(Repent, Rejoice, Trust in Me??
What ever your name is, Oh I forgot, " lord".
Humble yourself before me.
( who is me? No thanks, I will go to the Father in Heaven
instead.
Turn your hearts toward mine.
I thought were were to turn our minds to the Father in Heaven
and Follow though Jesus to come to Him. God's Will be done.
And I will withhold my anger.
( Talking smack
I will exalt you.
(some promise. getting a little vague.
( Who is I, I thought we were exalted by the Act of the Father.
You shall shine as the sun.
(I thought we will shine as the " Son ". sounds like Sol Invictus is the hidden lord.
Repent not and you will see my wrath.
( More smack talk, Go ahead show me your wrath.
Waiting, waiting, waiting. Nothing.
And know that I am God
( Captial " G" makes it legit.
( which god? Satan thinks he is god. well, still waiting for that
wrath.
SAYS THE LORD[/quote] says who.
Oh I forgot, some creation with a title of pastor said so.
__________________ Mark 15:38 Enter into the Temple it is now open
to all.
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(Thank Goodness. Notice does not mention the mind.
We are justified in the Father's Sight by the Act of Jesus, not from anything that
we could do. My mind focus's on the Act of Jesus, which leads me to the Act of the
Father, which saves me. I am justified in my Father's sight. I am bathed in the Live
Blood and Water of the Son of the Father, Jesus.
Gary, I like that you shake stuff up, and have some challenging concepts, but I wonder if you see the Act of Jesus from outside... or you conform yourself to Christ seeing it from His perspective.
That, is "being conformed to Jesus Christ crucified".
Definitely the churches are off, which you also preach, but I tend to see the being off as being more Pharisee like then anything else.
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