This was once a question only most women could answer in the affirmative. That being sad enough... it is now an answer more and more men are able to answer in the affirmative.
Was there ever a sexual incident in your past? Where someone abused you, or took liberties with you or made you feel scared or uncomfortable (sexually)?
I raise this point to coincide with my point in the thread "Guys..." as a symptom of a sex saturated society and the hush tone cover ups. Hush tone is a phrase I use to describe the cover ups, the being too embarrassed to talk about it, or the peer pressure to ignore it... all tools of the devil to keep the perversions going in the dark unabated.
We are light. children of light and the darkness cannot overcome it. Let's shed the light of day.
I'll begin.
I was molested from 13-15 by a 45+ year old male who pretended to be a friend of the family right after my father died.
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I think a lot of husbands will be shocked to find out what their wives had to endure until they came into their lives and maybe even after. The endless propositions, etc. What uncle Lester did to the girls that night he came in drunk... the things peers at school pressured folks into doing. All of it.
It's been under wraps too long. And the children we bring into the world are going to be subjected to it and worse by our silence. When will we have the courage to stand against evil?
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Your opinion is useless to me. You are trying to turn this into a prejudice matter when it is a human species matter.
So, I will generally not read your opinion.
But for those who are willing to address the problem in hopes of finding a solution (if only in the spheres of our personal influence)... please post and ignore the satanic attempts to derail this solution seeking conversation.
Thank you.
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Whoa, now. What was the point of quoting him and then sniping the whole quote? He disagrees and so his opinion doesn't count? Really? If he is wrong, you should be able to state in some logical fashion "why", but you don't instead, you imply that he is a Satanist! Wow!
You are seriously going to open up a topic asking a question this sensitive and personal
Was there ever a sexual incident in your past? Where someone abused you, or took liberties with you or made you feel scared or uncomfortable (sexually)?
and turn around and respond to the first person who doesn't give you exactly what you want to hear and respond like this:
Your opinion is useless to me. You are trying to turn this into a prejudice matter when it is a human species matter.
So, I will generally not read your opinion.
So I just have one question: Did you post this thread seeking some solution or did you post it hoping to get some juicy stories of pain and suffering that you could enjoy vicariously?
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Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a lawbreaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy .” Olmstead v. U.S., 277 U.S. 438
Wait, wait ... so ... you want us to talk about instances when we were taken advantage of sexually in our past? Just... kinda pour it all out on a public forum? Ages or years, who did it, that kinda thing?
Wow, that's... more than a little creepy that some stranger wants me and others to spill my guts about that kind of thing from my past, should it even exist -- most people work for years with a therapist to even come close to admitting in a closed environment that stuff like that happened, let alone just dropping all walls and pouring it out on the internet.
The thread isn't even in Married Couples Personal Topics where it should be, but that's just the beginning of the problems here.
I question your intentions. Sorry. This is more than a little disturbing.
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Who wants to remember some painful incident and relive every detail of it right here for our anonymous perusal of it? Step right up! Be the first.....!
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I for one think JohnD is right.
Unresolved childhood baggage, unhealed wounds underlie a lot of arrested development and destructive dysfunctional habits and behavior.
JohnD I commend you for you honesty and transparency. Denial is a destructive force. One cannot be free unless and until one is willing to face up to and deal with truth, even painful truth. That you are honest in facing such hard stuff puts you a long way down the road to victory. I hope you do not take personally the defensive critical reaction of some posters to your vulnerability. (You must have hit a nerve!) May your journey be blessed!
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Last edited by Psalm63; 18th October 2009 at 03:56 PM.
I for one think JohnD is right.
Unresolved childhood baggage, unhealed wounds underlie a lot of arrested development and destructive dysfunctional habits and behavior.
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I agree with you Psalm and John...that having unresolved and unhealed wounds of sexual abuse is detrimental. To that, I think there's no question.
HOWEVER, I don't think this venue or this thread is the manner in which to work through those demons. Something so repressed and potentially destructive needs to be handled with care and generally a trained professionals guidance is best case scenario.
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The last temptation that's the greatest treason, is to do the right deed for the wrong reason. T.S. Eliot
Your opinion is useless to me. You are trying to turn this into a prejudice matter when it is a human species matter.
So, I will generally not read your opinion.
But for those who are willing to address the problem in hopes of finding a solution (if only in the spheres of our personal influence)... please post and ignore the satanic attempts to derail this solution seeking conversation.
Thank you.
Dear John:
I didnt turn it into anything, I responded to exactly what you set out.
Your view is biased....it doesnt seem so, because its THE view, the norm, conventional wisdom as it were.
Im hugely sympathetic to the plight of the abused. I do find it odd as others have shared that we'd plop it out....just like that...when most take years to share it with their closest confidants.
But, in an effort to discuss the problem, you've done little more than add to the meme that men are salivating knuckle draggers. "Id be surprised at what my wife endured"....really?......why?......well youve answered it clearly sir......because men exist.
Context John, read in context, YOU alluded to the other thread, that coupled with the wording here makes your indignation a weak attempt to look as if you might kinda sorta maybe backpeddle
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