Parents don't burn their children for a long period of time. For any period of time for that matter. When you love someone, you care only for their best interests.
Until we were adopted as sons and daughters of God we were children of wrath, not God:
"Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others." (Eph 2:3)
Or children of the devil:
"This is how we know who the children of God are and who the children of the devil are: Anyone who does not do what is right is not a child of God; nor is anyone who does not love his brother." (1 John 3:10)
So would a parent burn their child for eternity? - it depends who that parent is.
"This is good and acceptable in the sight of our God our saviour; Who will have all men to be saved, and to come to the knowledge of the truth. For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus: Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time." (1 Tim. 2:3-6, KJV)
"At the name of Jesus EVERY knee should bow, of those in heaven, and those on earth, and of those under the earth, and that EVERY tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord to the glory of God the Father." (Phil. 2:10:11)
"Just as the result of one trespass was condemnation of ALL MEN, so also the result of one act of righteousness was justification that brings life for ALL MEN." (Rom. 5:18)
"The Lord is not slack concerning His promise, as some count slackness, but is longsuffering towards us, not willing that any should perish, but that ALL should come to repentance." (2 Peter 3:9)
"And I, if I am lifted up from the earth, will draw (drag in the Greek, helkuo) ALL MANKIND unto Myself." (John 12:32)
"ALL shall know the Lord, from the least of them to the greatest of them." (Heb. 8:11)
"When God's judgments are in the earth, the inhabitants of the WORLD will learn righteousness." (Isaiah 26:9)
God's Spirit "will be poured out on ALL FLESH." (Joel 2:28)
"The Lord will NOT cast off forever. Though He causes grief, yet He will show compassion according to the multitude of His
mercies." (Lam. 3:31, 32)
"God will have all men be saved and come to the knowledge of the truth." (1 Tim. 2:4, KJV)
To me it seems plainly written all over the Bible that Jesus is the saviour of the World, and that his miraculous death and resurrection paid the penalty for sin. Why man must accept that he did such a thing is beyond me. God is more powerful than that.
The error in your conclusion is twofold, some of your citations are taken out of contents. Also, the English word 'all' does not mean everyman, woman, child that ever existed. I'm going to start a new topic to explain.
So do you ignore the judgement? Do you ignore where Jesus Christ described the sheep and goat judgement in Matthew 25? Where he will tell some "Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels." Hell is one of the best examples of free will. God so respects our freedom to choose that He has given those who do not choose Him a place to be where He is not. Hell. Before any other imagery of fire and brimstone, Hell is eternal separation from God. Any thought of torment and pain pales in comparison to being without the presence of the Creator. Those who do not choose God, have chosen to be without Him in Hell.
With respect to scripture stating that all shall know the Lord. Absolutely. We will all stand in judgment. How can you ignore God any longer when you have died and stand before Him in judgment?
In Revelation this lake of fire is defined as the second death--not life in pain. Eternal fire in the context of Matt 25 could be referring to fire that burns long enough to totally destroy whatever is being burned.
__________________ I believe in a loving Creator who created us for the purpose of being capable of receiving and responding to the love of the Creator. Our first gift of life is temporary. If we attempt to fulfill our purpose of loving others, we have the hope of receiving a second gift of eternal life. There is no pain in the after life. If we do not receive the second gift, we are simply left with the first gift and will not exist after we die.
Until we were adopted as sons and daughters of God we were children of wrath, not God:
"Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others." (Eph 2:3)
Or children of the devil:
"This is how we know who the children of God are and who the children of the devil are: Anyone who does not do what is right is not a child of God; nor is anyone who does not love his brother." (1 John 3:10)
So would a parent burn their child for eternity? - it depends who that parent is.
If the parent is a loving parent, it does not depend on who that parent is. They will not burn anyone for eternity.
__________________ I believe in a loving Creator who created us for the purpose of being capable of receiving and responding to the love of the Creator. Our first gift of life is temporary. If we attempt to fulfill our purpose of loving others, we have the hope of receiving a second gift of eternal life. There is no pain in the after life. If we do not receive the second gift, we are simply left with the first gift and will not exist after we die.
If the parent is a loving parent, it does not depend on who that parent is. They will not burn anyone for eternity.
What does the parent do when the child grows up, and makes it's own choices? The parent allows the child to do what the child (now grown) chooses to do. The parent tries to intervene, to get their attention, to show their love, but some children choose to walk their own path and do what THEY will.
God respects our free will, and thus when some of us choose to reject Him, he respects that decision. There are only two places to go when you die, one prepared for the Devil and his angels, and one with eternal fellowship with God. Hell was not made for us, but because some choose against God, that's where they go. With the Devil and the angels who also chose against God.
In Revelation this lake of fire is defined as the second death--not life in pain. Eternal fire in the context of Matt 25 could be referring to fire that burns long enough to totally destroy whatever is being burned.
Pain is not necessarily all physical. Eternal separation from God is pain I cannot imagine.
What does the parent do when the child grows up, and makes it's own choices? The parent allows the child to do what the child (now grown) chooses to do. The parent tries to intervene, to get their attention, to show their love, but some children choose to walk their own path and do what THEY will.
God respects our free will, and thus when some of us choose to reject Him, he respects that decision. There are only two places to go when you die, one prepared for the Devil and his angels, and one with eternal fellowship with God. Hell was not made for us, but because some choose against God, that's where they go. With the Devil and the angels who also chose against God.
I don't believe heaven or hell is a physical place, but a state of relationship with God. I think we are granted temporary physcial life. We can however kill or distory our spiritual life with our own sin. Ezekiel 18. If we do that we do not live forever but we die. It seems you assume we are created with spiritual life that cannot end. I don't think so. I don't think God has created us in such a way that He has no choice but torture us forever if we reject Him. I do think if we reject God by failing to love others, we will receive the wages or consequences of sin, eternal death.
__________________ I believe in a loving Creator who created us for the purpose of being capable of receiving and responding to the love of the Creator. Our first gift of life is temporary. If we attempt to fulfill our purpose of loving others, we have the hope of receiving a second gift of eternal life. There is no pain in the after life. If we do not receive the second gift, we are simply left with the first gift and will not exist after we die.
Pain is not necessarily all physical. Eternal separation from God is pain I cannot imagine.
Pain is part of life on this realm. I don't think it is part of life in the next realm. It is not part of death.
__________________ I believe in a loving Creator who created us for the purpose of being capable of receiving and responding to the love of the Creator. Our first gift of life is temporary. If we attempt to fulfill our purpose of loving others, we have the hope of receiving a second gift of eternal life. There is no pain in the after life. If we do not receive the second gift, we are simply left with the first gift and will not exist after we die.
The Bible says Heaven will be joy and peace, not pain and suffering and tears. Pain is part of life in this realm so death would be to have no pain. If we are spiritually and physically dead there is no life to feel the pain
__________________ I believe in a loving Creator who created us for the purpose of being capable of receiving and responding to the love of the Creator. Our first gift of life is temporary. If we attempt to fulfill our purpose of loving others, we have the hope of receiving a second gift of eternal life. There is no pain in the after life. If we do not receive the second gift, we are simply left with the first gift and will not exist after we die.
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