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17th October 2009, 05:22 PM
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Here's a good bit of preaching. I put it here for obvious reasons.
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17th October 2009, 05:48 PM
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17th October 2009, 06:01 PM
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Reps: 674,049,980,044,779,264 (power: 674,049,980,044,792) | | Originally Posted by KingZzub  Just be careful, Washer is a hyper Calvinist with some very strange theology indeed.
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Did you have any issues with what he said in this video?
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I appeal to you, brothers, to watch out for those who cause divisions and create obstacles contrary to the doctrine that you have been taught; avoid them. For such persons do not serve our Lord Christ, but their own appetites, and by smooth talk and flattery they deceive the hearts of the naive.
Romans 16:17-18 |
17th October 2009, 06:12 PM
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17th October 2009, 06:30 PM
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Reps: 163,403,690,668,291,776 (power: 163,403,690,668,301) | | Originally Posted by FaultySurplus Here's a good bit of preaching. I put it here for obvious reasons.
Ouch!!
I couldn't agree more. 
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17th October 2009, 07:44 PM
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17th October 2009, 08:47 PM
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Reps: 674,049,980,044,779,264 (power: 674,049,980,044,792) | | Originally Posted by WileyCoyote I don't think "The Sinner's Prayer" has sent nearly as many people to hell as OSAS has. Yet Washer believes in it. He should be declaring war on his own doctrines before he declares war on someone else's.
Let's just say for the sake of argument that you are correct. (I am OSAS btw, so I disagree with that assessment, but that's not my point here.)
Is your point that it hasn't sent "enough" people to hell, therefore don't worry about it yet, actually where you want to come down on this topic?
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I appeal to you, brothers, to watch out for those who cause divisions and create obstacles contrary to the doctrine that you have been taught; avoid them. For such persons do not serve our Lord Christ, but their own appetites, and by smooth talk and flattery they deceive the hearts of the naive.
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17th October 2009, 09:04 PM
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Reps: 219,863,916,468,491,744 (power: 219,863,916,468,502) | | Originally Posted by FaultySurplus Let's just say for the sake of argument that you are correct. (I am OSAS btw, so I disagree with that assessment, but that's not my point here.)
Is your point that it hasn't sent "enough" people to hell, therefore don't worry about it yet, actually where you want to come down on this topic?
No, just making a point that he should correct his own doctrine before he tries to correct other people's doctrine. |
17th October 2009, 09:13 PM
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Reps: 674,049,980,044,779,264 (power: 674,049,980,044,792) | | Originally Posted by WileyCoyote No, just making a point that he should correct his own doctrine before he tries to correct other people's doctrine.
So people have to be 100% accurate in all their doctrine before ever attempting to question or warn others about their doctrine. Ok. Wouldn't that disqualify just about all pastors from preaching in their pulpits?
Also, is that actually a valid excuse in not pointing out bad doctrine? In your opinion, how many years of prayer and study should an individual have before they get it perfect so they can attempt to correct other doctrine?
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I appeal to you, brothers, to watch out for those who cause divisions and create obstacles contrary to the doctrine that you have been taught; avoid them. For such persons do not serve our Lord Christ, but their own appetites, and by smooth talk and flattery they deceive the hearts of the naive.
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17th October 2009, 09:20 PM
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Reps: 219,863,916,468,491,744 (power: 219,863,916,468,502) | | Originally Posted by FaultySurplus So people have to be 100% accurate in all their doctrine before ever attempting to question or warn others about their doctrine.
Nope. But when it comes to a heresy that will lead souls to hell (which is what I believe OSAS does. I truly believe the doctrine is a license for immorality), you need to correct such a doctrine before you hypocritically tell others that the "Sinner's Prayer" has led many people to hell.
We do not need to be 100% accurate in all our doctrines. But I find it laughable when someone accuses others of doing what he is doing himself. | | |
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