Yes Miss Elly I think I understand, when you're all wet you feel heavier making it harder to stand up, right; or do you mean there are only certain Christians that ever receive this experience?
I'm talking about feeling the power and presence of God - when the annointing comes upon you, your body feels weak. Not watrlogged clothes. It's a wonderful, wonderful feeling. It's what I imagine the believers felt on the day of Pentecost.....like fire shut up in their bones and sitting on their heads. I believe any christian that wants the fullness of God can have it by asking for it. As for me, the bible / word of God sustains me and is what gave me salvation , but I sure would like to feel again like I (and not only me) did on that day. There is so much more to the Lord than any of us can imagine. God bless you.
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I'm not trying to take anything away from your experience, but I'm concerned for the new born in Christ so they understand, feelings are not what our relationship with Christ Jesus is based on. It's based on the sincerity of our faith in the promises of the Word of God and His Holy Spirit.
But are His touches to be rejected?
I remember the first "touch" I had... I was getting really sick and had no insurance or money at the time. I remember lying there in my bed sweating and thinking about some scriptures and asked God if he would will it to heal me in Jesus name. The "feeling" came upon me immediately, as an electrical current running waves throughout my body. All I could think of during this was "My Jesus!" and I seemed to be paralyzed in awe. When it went away, I was breathing hard, but I felt fine. No fever, no nausea, nothing.
Yes the MOST IMPORTANT thing of following Christ is Faith. Without faith works are dead. But do you really think that if the Holy Spirit of God Himself dwells within you that if you ask it He wont do? Or that if you are worshiping Him you may not "feel" something? I get that feeling Miss Elly talked of alot too. His glory is so powerful it is hard to try and stand up when you "feel" it!
In the New Testament and in the Old, He heals and shows many miracles, signs, wonders... Id He not doing that now? Cause I see it a lot. He is the same yesterday, today, and will be the same tomorrow. For our God never changes.
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"Too often Christians hide in churches designed to keep its members comfortable and safe while the world is going to hell, while we are playing the 'religion game', as we fragment and abandon self sacrifice for comfort." - Matt Slick
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back at you.
There's no reason to apologize to me about anything you've said, but I admire your humility displayed in the offer.
God bless you!
__________________ "For man does not know his time. Like fish that are taken in an evil net, and like birds that are caught in a snare, so the children of man are snared at an evil time, when it suddenly falls upon them."
Ecclesiastes 9:12 (ESV)
Can you tell me what praying is? What exactly is the point of Prayer? And I might as well throw in one scripture; James 5:15 which reads: And the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the Lord shall raise him up and if he have committed sins, they shall be forgiven him. I'm sure there are many more, but unless you insist I start lookin, I will leave you with that. And the answer to my question was: Prayer is talking/conversing with God. How else are we to be saved unless we confess Jesus Christ with our mouths and believe (Romans 10:9 by the way) how else can we be forgiven?
I encourage you to keep looking. Read through the book of Acts and consider how people responded when they heard the gospel for the first time.
Here's something else for you to think about: who were Romans and James written to? Christians.
The people reading those letters had already been baptized. Romans 6 is a reminder of what their baptism meant ... it's linked to dying to sin, and being raised up to walk a new life with Christ.
It's our participation in the death, burial, and resurrection of Christ. It's part of being "born again!"
__________________ Luke 24:46-47 "He told them, "This is what is written: The Christ will suffer and rise from the dead on the third day, and repentance and forgiveness of sins will be preached in his name to all nations ..."
isnt this thread if one ought to be baptized by immersion? I, like the one was brought up Lutheran, was sprinkled at infant baptism I chose to be baptized after accepting the Lord. Just wondered if you have you chosen to be baptized or still wondering on the choice, just asking?
still praying
thank you everyone for your advice
__________________ I know your deeds. See, I have placed before you an open door that no one can shut. I know that you have little strength, yet you have kept my word and have not denied my name.
Revelation 3:8
Interesting how a simple question can get so complicated, huh?
Personally, I think you should do what the Lord tells you to. I do not believe that being emersed in earthly water will bring much spiritually. But I do know that each individual must be certain in his/her own mind as to what GOD leads him/her to do. The Holy Spirit comes upon us all when GOD feels we are ready and when we are humbled enough before HIM to accept it. From my experience and those of others this can happen long before emersion baptism or long after. I will help you by praying to GOD that HE shows you personally what is required. May HE BLESS YOU!