H1N1 Cases

norswede · #1 17th October 2009, 06:16 AM

I don't know about all of you, but I'm getting quite dizzy from the rollercoaster ride the media is taking us on in regards to the H1N1 Pandemic. I don't know how many times I have changed my mind about whether or not to get my family vaccinated based on what I have heard about it on the news. Living in Canada, and having sattalite tv, I have access to many news stations such as CTV, CBC, Global, CNN, Fox, NBC and BBC. I flip between all of these on a regular basis to get the differences of perspective from the different countries and I can't believe how many different perspectives there are out there. It's enough to make my head spin!

I started this thread in hopes of getting to the truth and helping people make an informed decision based on fact, not opinon. We all come from different countries and areas of those countries. This thread is for people to post information of H1N1 cases in their areas. If you know of anyone who has or has had a case of H1N1 in your area, post how old the person is and how serious their illness is. This way, we can let people know if there are any cases in their area without having to rely on the media to tell us. This will also let us know how serious the threat is and help us make an informed decision about whether or no to receive the vaccine. Also, please post any cases of negative reactions to the vaccine along with the person's age and which vaccine they received. Here in Canada we have to wait until the beginning of November to receive the vaccine so I am hoping that by then I will feel less confused about which decision to make.

So far there hasn't been any cases in my area that I know of, but I will keep you posted.

gracechick · #2 17th October 2009, 09:49 AM

I know we are starting to see the effects of the yearly flu. They are currently testing a relative of mine for H1N1.

There are quite a few medical professionals in my family. I told my husband last night I have no clue what we should do for our toddler as some are ready to take the vaccine and some are set against these untried vaccines. If she gets one it will only be the seasonal.

When I hear the numbers I wonder were any of these people vaccinated, how many had underlying health issues and have the results been carefully calculated. I read months ago an article questioning the CDC and how H1N1 tests are researched and results and the numbers evaluated. I don't consider the government the most trustworthy to produce accurate numbers and news in any area much less a our suppossed pandemic situation.

ThankGodforGod · #3 17th October 2009, 11:25 AM

I was at my local doctor a few weeks ago for an upper respiratory infection and THE ONLY test they were doing on flu like symptoms was the rapid H1N1 test (only about 50% effective). "The media" might seem biased to you but you are living in a fantasy if you think major media outlets are working together to report more cases than there are.

Stay away for mainstream media if you want. I personally have been listening to a lot of great podcasts from John's Hopkins, the CDC and the Mayo clinic. Guess what? Everyone of them is illegitimately scared of what could happen.

Bill Frist, former senate majority leader (he is a Republican) and I actually agree on something.

YouTube - Bill Maher gets schooled on vaccines by Bill Frist

The science is pretty clear and no matter what you might want to think you do not know more than people with PhDs in epidemiology.

ThankGodforGod · #4 17th October 2009, 11:31 AM

Originally Posted by gracechick

I know we are starting to see the effects of the yearly flu. My bthlw was hospitalised as he passed out and was taken to the hospital. They are running tests, but so far each has registered negative.

There are quite a few medical professionals in my family. I told my husband last night I have no clue what we should do for our toddler as some are ready to take the vaccine and some are set against these untried vaccines. If we she gets one it will only be the seasonal.

When I hear the numbers I wonder were any of these people vaccinated, how many had underlying health issues and have the results been carefully calculated. I read months ago and article questioning the CDC and how H1N1 tests are researched and results and the numbers evaluated. I don't consider the government the most trustworthy to produce accurate numbers and news in any area much less a our suppossed pandemic situation.

Make sure you are checking your sources. Peer review is KEY here since the most skeptical tin foiler can't be 1/5th as mean as a fellow scientist.

There is no global conspiracy here, the data backs up everything we have been telling you thus far. The vaccine is being given in massive quantities right now and the demand is so high that we can pretty much count on running out.

I am reading "The Demon in the Freezer", a non fiction book about what an engineered smallpox bioweapon could do. In the book they talk about the vaccine for smallpox (it's a live version of another pox virus) is the most dangerous vaccine known to man. They also say the CDC estimates that if we forced every American (300 MILLION people) to get the vaccine, anywhere from 300 to 1000 would die from it.

WORST case, you are talking about 1000 people out of 300,000,000. That puts your risk from dying of the most harmful vaccine known to man at less than 1%. We have yet to see a SINGLE case of any harm being done by this vaccine and we know for a fact that it increases your chances of avoiding H1N1 (they are peer reviewed studies).

All I am asking is that you educate yourself, and then look at the data.

b.hopeful · #5 17th October 2009, 12:22 PM

Originally Posted by gracechick

I told my husband last night I have no clue what we should do for our toddler as some are ready to take the vaccine and some are set against these untried vaccines. If we she gets one it will only be the seasonal.
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The seasonal flu shot is no different than the H1N1...they are just for different strains. If you receive a seasonal flu shot...it is also "untested" since the strain is different year to year.

Years ago, I didn't get flu shots and I didn't give them to my kids. I felt we were all healthy...so no need. If anything our immune systems would get a work out if we got the flu. So I do understand why some people opt out of flu shots. Now, I have diabetes and my son has severe asthma so we get them. We will also be getting the H1N1. What I don't understand is why people get seasonal shots but balk at the H1N1.

Cabal · #6 17th October 2009, 07:52 PM

Here in the UK I wish they would stop posting the figures of people reporting flu-like symptoms - not confirmed cases of flu, as flu like symptoms could be anything. While it is possible to extrapolate a reasonable idea of infection rates from those numbers, your average reader won't and some will just start panicking more.

Petunia · #7 17th October 2009, 09:13 PM

I will be getting the regular yearly flu shot, and will probably get the H1N1 vaccination too. My niece is just getting over it (H1N1). She's a police officer, and several people in her department had it too.

Note- Remember it takes 2 weeks for the effects of the shot to start working.

About 2 weeks after vaccination, antibodies that provide protection against 2009 H1N1 influenza virus infection will develop in the body.

The 2009 H1N1 vaccine will not protect against seasonal influenza viruses.
CDC H1N1 Flu | Key Facts About 2009 H1N1 Flu Vaccine

Celticflower · #8 18th October 2009, 06:25 PM

Originally Posted by Cabal

Here in the UK I wish they would stop posting the figures of people reporting flu-like symptoms - not confirmed cases of flu, as flu like symptoms could be anything. While it is possible to extrapolate a reasonable idea of infection rates from those numbers, your average reader won't and some will just start panicking more.

Here in East Tenn. most Drs and ERs aren't even testing for H1N1 - they just assume that is what it is. The flumist version of the vaccine is here, but my son can't take it because he has a cold at the moment.

ThankGodforGod · #9 19th October 2009, 11:16 AM

Both my dad and my brother (visiting from college) are currently sick with flu. Also just found out that CDC's own test showed an effectiveness rate of 11% for the rapid test for H1N1.

b.hopeful · #10 20th October 2009, 07:16 PM

We did the rapid test not knowing it's not very effective. My daughter was out of school for two weeks...miserable...with a flu that the rapid test said wasn't swine flu. Hmmm.....