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Old 18th October 2009, 12:48 PM
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Do all these terrible local floods leave evidence? Especially the big one in the Middle East?
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Originally Posted by Jazmyn View Post
Do all these terrible local floods leave evidence?
Yes.

Especially the big one in the Middle East?
The Tigris and Euphrates would flood annually well into modern times. The people living in the delta would build reed boats, put all their livestock aboard, and wait out the flood. One can almost hear the grandfathers yarning to the whining children, "Why this flood aint a patch on the one from my daddy's time! It lasted a whole year!"

I believe that dams have been built now.

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Yes but, people say that the flood story, at least the ME one, stems from one devastating flood that once occured there, is there evidence for this particular one?
And also, if there was a global flood, would just extrapolating the effects of local floods truly give an accurate picture of the evidence a worldwide one would leave?
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Originally Posted by laconicstudent View Post
I don't understand. We have water. So does Europa, comets and the Kuiper belt. Mars may have ice deposits under the poles. Most of the moons in the outer system are comprised largely of ice. The fact that we have one of the most common molecules in the universe doesn't really mean anything.
You do understand. You just try to ignore the HUGE evidence right in front of your eyes. I say it again: The ocean of the earth is an evidence that the Global Flood is true.

As for Europa, we do not need any evidence. It is still flooded now. It would be interested to think about where does all the water on Europa come from. In the other thread, I proposed that our moon had a global flood. What do you think? Need to see some evidences?
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Originally Posted by juvenissun View Post
You do understand. You just try to ignore the HUGE evidence right in front of your eyes. I say it again: The ocean of the earth is an evidence that the Global Flood is true.

As for Europa, we do not need any evidence. It is still flooded now. It would be interested to think about where does all the water on Europa come from. In the other thread, I proposed that our moon had a global flood. What do you think? Need to see some evidences?
Why in the world would it matter whether or not there were water floods on other worlds? We're talking about the evidence (or lack thereof, rather) for one specific flood on this planet.
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The fact that the Earth's seas still have thriving life over the microscopic level is proof that there WASN'T a flood. If there was a global flood, the environmental conditions would be so horrifically screwed over that everything would have died.

There wouldn't be any fish, sea turtles, cetacean, crabs, lobster, shrimp, clams, barnacles, corals etc.

They would have all been brutally wiped out by the wildly gyrating pH, salinity and temperature of the oceans and choked on the massive input of SILT as the the entire landmass of the Earth's continents were submerged.

I honestly think people don't understand how delicate the ecosystem can be. A global flood would have been a cataclysmic extinction event for the oceans.
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Originally Posted by juvenissun View Post
You do understand. You just try to ignore the HUGE evidence right in front of your eyes. I say it again: The ocean of the earth is an evidence that the Global Flood is true.
Clearly it is not
Explain how you could possibly see the current oceans as evidence for a flood, because I see the exact opposite. I see a ton of water, but not nearly enough to cover the worlds mountains. That is a ridiculous amount of water, an amount that we do not find in our oceans today.
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Clearly it is not
Explain how you could possibly see the current oceans as evidence for a flood, because I see the exact opposite. I see a ton of water, but not nearly enough to cover the worlds mountains. That is a ridiculous amount of water, an amount that we do not find in our oceans today.

You know, I'd much rather they actually explain how all of the aquatic animal species could have survived the wild fluctuations in temperature, salinity, pH and the enormous silt that would accompany a global flood.

you notice that the only response to that is a completely out of place "How do you know?"?
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I'd like to say three things in response here:

1) The Word of God will not return void; so even when I post a verse of Scripture and It's ignored, It did something inside of them.

2) These people display a lack of basic theology to the point that I'm almost convinced that the only thing they understand is the phrase: God did it. In point of fact, I don't think they understand half of what I'm saying; but through repetition, something should sink in somewhere.

3) I get the impression --- (and I could be wrong) --- but I get the impression that these people have seen things like bumper stickers that say: GOD SAID IT - THAT SETTLES IT, and just took it with a grain of salt. One of the things that I think I do here, is show them just how effective statements like that are; so the next time they see something like that, they'll think twice before concluding it's an empty remark.
God doesn't post here. You're saying it, not God. That's the problem. Just because you say God said it, doesn't mean he actually did.
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